JESUS - LUKE'S GOSPEL

3:11 - John said: "The man who has two shirts must share with the man who has none, and the man who has food must do the same."

3:12 - Some of the tax-collectors also came to him to be baptised and they asked him, "Master, what are we to do?"

3:13 - "You must not demand more than you are entitled to," he replied.

3:14 - And the soldiers asked him, "And what are we to do?"

"Don't bully people, don't bring false charges," he replied.

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5:12 - While he was in one of the towns, Jesus came upon a man who was a mass of leprosy. When he saw Jesus, he prostrated himself before him and begged, "If you want to, Lord, you can make me clean."

5:13 - Jesus stretched out his hand, placed it on the leper, saying, "Certainly I want to. Be clean!"

5:14 - Immediately the leprosy left him.


Stephen Grosz is a psychoanalyst who studies liars and lying. “We all lie, but we don’t lie like President Trump,” the British Financial Times online quoted Grosz, an American who wrote The Examined Life. “He is the most extravagant, reckless, inexhaustible fibber of our era.

6:20 - Jesus said, "How happy are you who own nothing, for the kingdom of God is yours!

6:24 - "But how miserable for you who are rich, for you have had all your comforts!"



6:27-28 - "I say to all of you who will listen to me: love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, and pray for those who treat you badly.

6:29a - "As for the man who hits you on one cheek, offer him the other one as well!

6:31 - "Treat men exactly as you would like them to treat you."

6:32-35 - "You are to love your enemies."

6:37-38 - "Don't judge other people and you will not be judged yourselves. Don't condemn and you will not be condemned.

"Give and men will give to you - yes, good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over will they pour into your lap."



6:39-40 - "A disciple is not above his teacher, but when he is fully trained he will be like his teacher."

6:41-42 - "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and fail to notice the plank in your own? Take the plank out of your own eye first."

6:43-45 - "A good man produces good things from the good stored up in his heart, and a bad man produce evil things from his own stores of evil."



6:46- "And what is the point of calling me, 'Lord, Lord', without doing what I tell you to do?"

6:47-49 - "Let me show you what the man who comes to me, hears what I have to say, and puts it into practice, is really like.

"He is like a man building a house, who dug down to rock-bottom and laid the foundation of his house upon it.

"Then when the flood came and flood-water swept down upon that house, it could not shift it because it was properly built."

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7:11-13 - Some people were carrying out a dead man, the only son of his widowed mother.

7:14 - Then he walked up and put his hand on the bier while the bearers stood still. Then he said, "Young man, wake up!"

7:15-16 - And the dead man sat up and began to talk.


"By 1691, the population of indigenous Americans had declined by 90-95 percent, or by around 130 million people." Genocide of indigenous peoples - Wikipedia

7:36-39 - Then one of the Pharisees asked Jesus to a meal with him.

7:44-47 - Jesus said to Simon, "You can see this woman?

"I came into your house but you provided no water to wash my feet. But she has washed my feet with her tears and dried them with her hair.

"There was no warmth in your greeting, but she, from the moment I came in, has not stopped covering my feet with kisses.

"You gave me no oil for my head, but she has put perfume on my feet.

"That is why I tell you, Simon, that her sins, many as they are, are forgiven; for she has shown me so much love.

"But the man who has little to be forgiven has only a little love to give."

Jesus said to the woman, "It is your faith that has saved you. Go in peace."

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8:1-3 - Jesus was accompanied by the twelve and some women who had been cured of evil spirits and illnesses - Mary, known as "the woman from Magdala" (who had once been possessed by seven evil spirits)

8:21 - Jesus said: "My mother and my brothers? That means those who listen to God's message and obey it."



10:30-36 - And Jesus said: "A man fell into the hands of bandits who stripped off his clothes, beat him up, and left him half dead.

"It so happened that a priest was going down that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

"A Levite also came on the scene and when he saw him, he too passed by on the other side.

"But then a Samaritan traveller came along to the place where the man was lying, and at the sight of him he was touched with pity.

"He went across to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put him on his own mule, brought him to an inn and did what he could for him.

"Next day he took out two silver coins and gave them to the inn-keeper with the words, 'Look after him, will you? I will pay you back whatever more you spend, when I come through here on my return.' Which of these three seems to you to have been a neighbour to the bandits' victim?"

10:37 - "The man who gave him practical sympathy," he replied. "Then you go and give the same," returned Jesus.



11:9-10 - Jesus said: "ask and it will be given you, search and you will find, knock and the door will be opened to you. The one who asks will always receive; the one who is searching will always find, and the door is opened to the man who knocks."

11:24-26 - Jesus said: "When the evil spirit comes out of a man, it wanders through waterless places looking for rest, and when it fails to find any, it says, 'I will go back to my house from which I came.'

"When it arrives, it finds it cleaned and all in order. Then it goes and collects seven other spirits more evil than itself to keep it company, and they all go in and make themselves at home. The last state of that man is worse than the first."


Seventh son of a seventh son

11:37-44 - Jesus said: "You Pharisees are fond of cleaning the outside of your cups and dishes, but inside yourselves you are full of greed and wickedness!"
11:52 - "Alas for you experts in the Law."

14:12-14 - Jesus said, "When you give a party, invite the poor, the lame, the crippled and the blind. That way lies real happiness for you. they have no means of repaying you, but you will be repaid when good men are rewarded - at the resurrection."

15:3-7 - Jesus said: "there is more joy over one sinner whose heart is changed than over ninety-nine righteous people who have no need for repentance.

16:13 - "No servant can serve two masters. He is bound to hate one and love the other, or give his loyalty to one and despise the other.

"You cannot serve God and the power of money at the same time."


Allegations - TRUMP AND 12-YEAR-OLD MARIA

17:1-3a - Then Jesus said to his disciples, "It is inevitable that there should be pitfalls, but alas for the man who is responsible for them! It would be better for that man to have a mill-stone hung round his neck and be thrown into the sea, than that he should trip up one of these little ones. So be careful how you live.

17:3b-4 - "If your brother offends you, take him to task about it, and if he is sorry, forgive him. Yes, if he wrongs you seven times in one day and turns to you and says, 'I am sorry' seven times, you must forgive him."


17:5 - And the apostles said to Jesus, "Give us more faith."

17:6 - And he replied, "If your faith were as big as a grain of mustard seed, you could say to this fig-tree, 'Pull yourself up by the roots and plant yourself in the sea', and it would do what you said!"

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17:20-21 - Jesus was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming, and he gave them this reply: "The kingdom of God never comes by watching for it. Men cannot say, 'Look, here it is', or 'there it is', for the kingdom of God is inside you."

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18:15-17 - Jesus said: I tell you, the man who will not accept the kingdom of God like a little child will never get into it at all."

18:22 - Jesus said: "Sell everything you possess and give the money away to the poor, and you will have riches in Heaven. Then come and follow me."

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JESUS, CAESAR'S MESSIAH, REAL CHRISTIANITY

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The biblical scholar Joseph Atwill claims that the story of Jesus Christ is a HOAX designed to control the people.

Joseph Atwill's Blog | Discussing "Caesar's Messiah".

Atwill says that the Jesus story was designed by the Roman empire to justify slavery and to pacify the citizens.

Atwill writes: "Christianity was actually developed and used as a system of mind control to produce slaves that believed God decreed their slavery.”

Story of Jesus Christ was a HOAX designed to control the people, Biblical scholar claims

Atwill is very pro-Israel.

His claims have apparently been debunked.[2][3][4

John Dominic Crossan (above), professor emeritus at De Paul University Chicago, "believes that less than 20 percent of what we read in the Gospels are original sayings of Jesus." 

(John Dominic Crossan Web Site) (http://www.y-jesus.com/bornid_4.php)

What do we think?

Jesus attacked the Old Testament.

Jesus said: "Turn the other cheek."

We think that those Jewish Christians who wrote the New Testament made alterations to the Jesus story, in order to tie it in with the Old Testament.

And, we think that the Romans made alterations to the Jesus story, in order to aid the Roman empire.

But, the true parts of the Jesus story have been of benefit to the world.



Joseph Atwill argues that, at the time of Jesus, Jewish sects in Palestine were awaiting a 'warrior Messiah'.

According to Atwill, the Powers-That-Be thus designed the Jesus story in such a way that it would appear to give the people a Messiah, while at the same time making sure that the people remained slaves.

Atwill says: "Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged 'turn-the-other-cheek pacifism' and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome.

"Christianity can be ... an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty..."

What do we think?

Atwill, being a fan of Israel, does not like a pacifist Jesus.

Many of the people who have opposed poverty and serfdom are the followers of the Real Jesus.

What evidence is there that Jesus was (A) an opponent of the Establishment, or (B) a tool of the establisment?

1. Jesus shared meals with outcasts, which annoyed the Pharisees, strong supporters of the laws and traditions of the Jewish people.

Jesus said: "Be on your guard against the Doctors of the Law, who like to walk about in robes and be saluted in the streets... who devour the livelihood of widows..."

2. Jesus talked of 'good people' being his 'brothers' and 'sisters'.

3. Jesus urged people to 'renounce self'.

Jesus said: "If anyone wishes to be the first, he must be the last of all and the servant of all."

Jesus said: "Why do you call me good? No one but God is good."

4. Jesus said: "How difficult it is for men of wealth to enter the Kingdom of God."

We are a fan of Jesus.

David and Jonathan.

Jesus appears to attack the Old Testament.

Jesus said: "Turn the other cheek."

In Numbers 31:14, 17, 18: "Moses said 'Kill all the women and boys, but keep the girls for yourselves."

Moses, if he ever existed, was obviously a child killer.

The Bible is like the curate's egg - good in parts.

The Bible, like the Koran, is a very human attempt to describe what life is all about.

In Matthew 5:1,2  "Jesus went up into a mountain: and when he was ready, his disciples came to him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."

This is the Sermon on the Mount.

In Luke 6:17,20: "Jesus stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."

This is the Sermon on the Mount, but, it is in the plain.

Luke seems to be making it up.

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The Old Testament is endless contradictions.

In Isaiah 14:21 we read that people should "Kill the children because of the sins of their fathers."

In Deuteronomy 24:16 we read "Children should not be put to death for the sins of their fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."

In Jeremiah 13:14 we read: "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

In Psalms 145:9 we read: "The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works."

A List Of Biblical Contradictions

Christians killing Christians.

In Jeremiah 32:27 we read "God is all powerful."

In Judges 1:19 we read: "God is not all powerful."

Biblical Contradictions

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Many of the people who leave comments on this blog have been brainwashed by fundamentalist Christians.

Sensible Christians "consider some passages of the Bible (e.g. those referring to slavery, burning some hookers alive, forcing rape victims to marry their rapists, raping female prisoners of war, etc.) as not being valid today, as immoral, and against the will of God.

"They differentiate among various homosexual and heterosexual sex practices, treating some (rape, prostitution, temple sex rituals) as immoral and some (consesual activity within committed relationships) as positive." 

same-sex relationships in the bible: conservative and liberal

www.smc-mb.net 

The early Christians had various theories about Jesus.

Jesus did not become 'officially' divine until 325 AD.

This was when the Council of Nicaea, set up by the Roman emperor Constantine, decided that Jesus, like many Roman Emperors, was divine.



Most scholars agree that Jesus did actually exist.

"Amy-Jill Levine states that ... 'there is a consensus of sorts on the basic outline of Jesus' life' in that most scholars agree that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, debated Jewish authorities on the subject of God, performed some healings, gathered followers...."[68]

Christ myth theory - Wikipedia



In The Historical Jesus; Five Views, Robert Price suggests that the story of Jesus in the Gospels contains borrowings from pagan mythology.

In the same book, Professor Luke Timothy Johnson lists all the things historians can know with 'a very high degree of probability' about Jesus - Jesus taught in parables, Jesus healed people, Jesus taught about God's Kingdom.

The Recliner Commentaries: Five views of the historical Jesus


Osiris's resurrection is celebrated on the third day

Does the story of Jesus show strong parallels to myths of dying and rising gods?

Apparently not.

"Early in the 20th century, Gerald Massey argued that there are similarities between the Egyptian dying-and-rising god myths and Jesus.[22]

"Massey stated that the biblical references to Herod the Great were based on the myth of 'Herrut' the evil hydra serpent."

However, the existence of Herod the Great "can be well established without reliance on Christian sources."[23] 

In other words, Herod was not Herrut.



"The overall scholarly consensus is that while the examples provided often involve death of the deity, they do not generally involve resurrection of the same deity.[2] 

"Eddy and Boyd state that upon careful analysis, it turns out that there is often either no death, no resurrection or no god in the examples used to construct each of the examples in the category.[17]

"Jonathan Z. Smith, a scholar of comparative religions, writes the category is 'largely a misnomer based on imaginative reconstructions and exceedingly late or highly ambiguous texts.'[1][37]

Mithraism

Is Christianity similar to the Roman religion Mithraism?

Early Christian authors "took an extremely negative view of Mithraism" and saw their practices "as evil copies of Christian practices."[209]

Stanley porter notes that "Mithraism only reached Asia minor in the latter part of the first century, after the basic elements of the gospels were in place, and hence could not have influenced the essential elements of the gospels."[211]


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David Strauss (1808–1874), a German theologian, believed that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and that the encounter had influenced the views of Jesus.

However, Strauss believed that "the additional elements of the sky opening, the dove descending on Jesus as the Holy Spirit, etc. were subsequent miraculous embellishments by the authors of the gospels intended to emphasize the importance of a key event in the life of Jesus."[220] [225]

Strauss believed that the divine spirit was embedded in all of humanity.



In 1890, Sir James George Frazer published the first edition of The Golden Bough which showed "the shared elements of religious belief."

Frazer himself believed that Jesus existed.[235]

William Benjamin Smith (1850–1934) argued for a symbolic interpretation of the stories about Jesus.

Smith argues that in the parable of the Jesus and the rich young manthere never was a young man, and the young man symbolizes the nation of Israel.[254]

Dying and rising gods

What about Quantum Physics, Jesus and Intuition?

"Free will allows us to choose to continue to influence reality with our memories (Ego) 

Or we can choose to accept our identity as projections of the Father and consciously co-create with the Father...

"Quantum physics has proven that the belief of the observer is translated in the test tube. 

"Each energy packet can become particle or remain as energy depending on the expectation of the observer. 

"This is known as the observer effect.

"Positive Thinking is Merely Scratching the Surface of Truth: We must be attentive to intuition

"As the Quantum physicist has discovered, our beliefs come true. 

"This is the key to the kingdom which we forgot shortly after birth. 

www.peje.co.za 

"Our parents probably forgot that we are connected, just as they are connected to the One. 

"In this same way, Herod of Judea forgot that he and Jesus were both born of the Creator/Father/One. 

"Herod attempted to kill Jesus by ordering all the newborn children of Bethlehem to be slain.

"But, since Joseph was attentive to his intuition, (for intuitive training go to Andrea Hess...) he was warned by the One/Creator/Father to flee to Egypt. 

"Jesus was safe during His childhood. They only returned to Israel after they were told of the death of Herod.

"When Jesus was grown, he fasted for 40 days and 40 nights before beginning His ministry... a month of fasting will cause an altered state of reality.

"When Jesus was tempted by His Ego to turn the stones into bread, He reminded the tempter that 'man does not live by bread alone.' Thus He determined to finish his vision quest...

"Jesus told the Ego to get behind Him because it is only the One/Source/Creator who would be served.

"To accept our identity as co-Creators with the One, we must put our finite Egos behind us. 

"Our Subconscious mind is connected to our Higher Mind and to the Creator/One/Source. 

"The Ego is only connected to our conscious minds and helps keep us involved in this physical world. 

"But, at the same time, we must learn to influence our Subconscious Minds in order to create our reality..."

Who was Jesus?

John Dominic Crossan, professor emeritus at De Paul University Chicago, is an Irish-American religious scholar. 

(John Dominic Crossan Web Site)

Crossan "believes that less than 20 percent of what we read in the Gospels are original sayings of Jesus." 

(http://www.y-jesus.com/bornid_4.php)

Crossan does not dispute that Jesus Christ really lived.

Independent accounts "prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus." (Quoted in Josh McDowell, Evidence That Demands a Verdict, vol. 1 (Nashville: Nelson, 1979), 87.)

Crossan sees Jesus as a healer and man of great wisdom. (John Dominic Crossan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

The fundamentalists are no fun

According to Crossan, Jesus's teachings would have upset the elite.

According to Crossan, "The Kingdom of God comes not at some future time

"You cannot point out the sign of its coming

"The Kingdom of God comes not at some special site

"You cannot point out the place of its coming

"The Kingdom of God is already here, among you, now."

Egyptians, by Veralyn Adeyinka

In a review of a Crossan book, Peter Broady wrote (Review of The Essential Jesus by John Dominic Crossan.):

"One can only wonder what the Jewish peasant who spoke of the poor and destitute as ‘blessed’ along with the ‘peacemakers’ and ‘those that hunger and thirst after justice’, and said that it is nearly impossible for wealth and the ‘kingdom of God’ to coexist, would think of our unimaginably wealthy country where the gap between rich and poor has reached heights unimaginable in his time..."

The following is fiction:

James: How was your trip to India to meet the great guru?

Peter: I enjoyed India. But I've come to the conclusion that the only good guru is a humble guru. The guru I met in India was sitting on a throne and claiming to understand everything about the universe. He did not look in good health. He may be what you call a 'theomaniac': someone who gets very easily irritated and doesn't like being contradicted.

James: You don't think Jesus was perfect?

Peter: Jesus said, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God." He also said that he was not seeking glory for himself.

James: That suggests that Jesus was capable of making some mistakes.

Peter: Exactly. Remember that Jesus wanted people to be humble, like little children. He wanted people to see themselves as servants. Jesus washed people's feet.

James: What about Jesus when he was criticising some of the Jewish leaders and calling them names? In Matthew, Jesus says, "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!... You blind fools!... You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?"

Peter: This seems to conflict with Jesus's teaching about not judging people; and about seeing your own faults; about turning the other cheek and about not resisting evil.

James: What do think Jesus thought about God and life after death?

Peter: I think Jesus used parables because it's not possible to explain all these things very easily in words. When Jesus talked about being at one with the Father, that could mean many different things. I think Jesus believed that we can all be one with the divine.

James: So your guru must be humble.

Peter: The guru must teach that we should be humble, kindly and flexible in our thinking. But, the guru must himself be humble, kindly and flexible.

The fundamentalists are no fun

The Religion OF Jesus - not ABOUT Jesus: Toward the theology OF Jesus

Arthur C. Ruger suite101.com/new_christianity

"Jesus, in fact, was typical of a certain kind of fanatical young idealist: at one moment holding forth, with tears in his eyes, about the need for universal love; at the next furiously denouncing the morons, crooks and bigots who do not see eye to eye with him, It is a very natural and human behavior." - Margaret Knight, 'Honest to Man' : p26 ( personality )

The Prophet said, "Have I not taught you how the inhabitants of Paradise will be all the humble and the weak..." Islam: Hadith of Bukhari.

"Be humble, be harmless, Have no pretension..." Hinduism: Bhagavad Gita

"To know when one does not know is best. To think one knows when one does not know is a dire disease." Taoism: Tao Te Ching

"The fool who knows that he is a fool is for that very reason a wise man; the fool who thinks he is wise is called a fool indeed." Buddhism: Dhammapada