Saturday, 6 July 2019

NICK VERSUS LORD BRAMALL (PART 4)

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Carl Beech (Nick) 'blew the whistle on a child abuse ring run by top people'.

In May 2019, Carl Beech was put on trial!

NICK VERSUS LORD BRAMALL (PART 1) NICK VERSUS LORD BRAMALL (PART 2) / 
NICK VERSUS LORD BRAMALL (Part 3) / NICK VERSUS LORD BRAMALL (PART 4)
NICK VERSUS LORD BRAMALL (PART 5) .

Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Defendant Carl Beech (Nick) tells #NickTrial that in 2014 he blogged pseudonymously about #Child Sexual Abuse (CSA) inquiry because he felt that it was a very important development.

He had no intention at that stage of talking to the police about what had happened to him.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Defendant confirms to #NickTrial that he spoke to Ben Emmerson, then counsel to CSA inquiry at that stage (ie in mid-2014).

Brian Mitchell 5 July 2019 at 22:28 comments:

My name is Brian Mitchell. 


I have been on radio several times and I can say that both me and Adam Pierce were forced to have sex with several folk named on this website.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Defendant tells #NickTrial that there were two occasions when Harvey Proctor threatened to cut him with a knife. 

The first time, Proctor was stopped by someone whose identity defendant does not know.

The second time, Edward Heath stopped Proctor.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Defendant to #NickTrial: “It is something I get confused about. There were two similar incidents.”

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Asked by defence counsel Collingwood Thompson why he carried out internet searches on various people and places in May 2014, defendant tells #NickTrial: “It’s not something I believe to be research. It was confirming what I already know.”

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Defendant tells #NickTrial that he carried out those searches when he was speaking to Mark Conrad of Exaro to be sure that his memories were accurate. He had no intention at that stage of talking to the police.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

On the accusation that he drew on internet searches to help with sketches, defendant tells #NickTrial: “I can only reiterate that it was from my memory.”

Brian Mitchell 5 July 2019 at 22:28 comments:

My name is Brian Mitchell. 


I have been on radio several times and I can say that both me and Adam Pierce were forced to have sex with several folk named on this website.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

He had a meeting with Tom Symonds and, he thinks, Tom Bateman of BBC, and Peter McKelvie was there, defendant tells #NickTrial. He was shown a picture of a boy, Vishal (ie Malhotra), whom he only recognised from recent Press coverage.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Next, he was shown a picture of a second boy, defendant tells #NickTrial. “I became very upset... I felt very certain it was the boy from meeting 2... I couldn’t carry on with the meeting.”

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Defence counsel refers at #NickTrial to an article in The Times on 27.11.14 about how police were investigating whether Martin Allen was the boy murdered by a group of paedophiles that included an MP.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Defendant tells #NickTrial that the article in The Times had the picture of a boy previously shown to him, so he now knew the boy’s name. Martin Allen.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

He was “very certain” that Martin Allen was the boy killed by Harvey Proctor, defendant tells #NickTrial.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Defendant confirms to #NickTrial that he tried to help the Met contact his friend, John, who went through some of the abuse.

But, he says, John “wasn't keen” to talk to police, and “was quite angry” that he had gone to them.
But he did not totally reject the idea, he adds.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

He agreed to act as an intermediary between Dr Elly Hanson, who was working with the Met police, and John, defendant confirms to #NickTrial.

 He forwarded an e-mail from her to John, and a reply back to her.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 2h2 hours ago

Journalist Mark Conrad suggested using Protonmail to John because it was a “secure e-mail service”, defendant tells #NickTrial.

Conrad also recommended that he use TOR.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 1h1 hour ago


Carl Beech (Nick) tells #NickTrial that he set up a Protonmail e-mail account for John, which is why it had a retrieval e-mail address linked to him. 

John completed setting up the account, and Carl Beech (Nick) did not have password to it.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 1h1 hour ago

John was “reluctant” to come forward to police, defendant tells #NickTrial, while he was “desperate” for him to do so.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 1h1 hour ago

Defendant tells #NickTrial that he met up with John in Paris while on holiday with his son. 

John saw him at the restaurant/bar of his hotel, and they discussed whether he would go forward to the police.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 1h1 hour ago

He never told the police John’s surname because he did not have his permission and anyway the Met police was in e-mail contact with John so he could identify himself if he wanted to do so, defendant tells #NickTrial.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 1h1 hour ago

He has not had contact with John since September 2014, defendant tells #NickTrial.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 1h1 hour ago

Was he prepared to tell #NickTrial John’s surname? “No.” Why not? “I don’t have his permission to do so.”

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 1h1 hour ago

Defendant confirms to #NickTrial that he wanted to withdraw from the Met’s investigation because it had left him needing counselling twice a week after having been in a “good place” before it began.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 48m48 minutes ago

Despite his “reservations” in around January/February 2015, he continued to “assist” the police, defendant confirms to #NickTrial.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 43m43 minutes ago

Defendant tells #NickTrial that he recorded anonymous interview in early 2013 for programme on Channel 5 about Jimmy Savile after NAPAC asked for people, especially males, to participate in the programme.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 41m41 minutes ago

Asked by the judge whether he used the name ‘Stephen’ for that interview, the defendant tells #NickTrial that this was the name given to him by the programme makers.

Dame Alun Roberts‏ @ciabaudo Jul 4

What is alarming about the Scottish gang of paedophiles surrounding Nicholas Fairbairn and Robert Henderson is the fact that persons involved have ties to not one, not two but three @inquiry child sexual Abuse chairs.


Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 38m38 minutes ago

Defendant confirms to #NickTrial that he was worried by the idea of allowing the police to access his counselling notes because he had thought that they were confidential and private. But he did agree to the police having access.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 34m34 minutes ago

Defendant to #NickTrial: he was distressed by Harvey Proctor’s press conference of August 2015 because “he had put all the details out in the public domain, including all the names.” This is a reference to other alleged abusers.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 32m32 minutes ago

Mark Conrad and the BBC told him that it was only a matter of time before he was identified, defendant tells #NickTrial.

A journalist even wrote that he had given Carl Beech's name to Harvey Proctor.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 26m26 minutes ago

Defendant confirms to #NickTrial that the Daily Mail effectively identified him by publishing a poorly obscured picture of him. He told the Met that he was withdrawing from the investigation. He says that the harassment led him to this decision.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 22m22 minutes ago

Nonetheless, he did still co-operate with the Met “at a distance”, defendant tells #NickTrial. He felt an “obligation” to do so. “It was the right thing to do.”

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 19m19 minutes ago

He agreed in late 2015 to a further Met interview, which he thought was for an identification process and to “clarify a few things”. The Met did not tell him what subjects would be covered, he says.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 16m16 minutes ago

During this Met interview in January 2016, defendant tells #NickTrial, he was unhappy that they raised the deaths again, and then the issue of a diplomat even though he had always been clear that he would not talk about that.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 13m13 minutes ago

Defendant to #NickTrial: “My head was pounding, and I couldn’t concentrate on what I was being asked.” He stopped the interview, saying that he had a headache.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 5h5 hours ago

Defendant tells #NickTrial that he could not understand why ‘Operation Midland’ closed - before police carried out planned enquires, eg ID process for boys, inc for Scott, visiting with police the location of Scott’s death, and of the 16/17 property in Eccleston Square.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 5h5 hours ago

Defendant confirms to #NickTrial that he rented a locker at Big Yellow Storage Company to store boxes from home in order to free up space for work materials.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 5h5 hours ago

Defendant confirms to #NickTrial that he went to the locker after the search on his property. He was suspended from work following the search, and he had to check what work papers might be in the boxes in the locker.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 5h5 hours ago

Defendant tells #NickTrial that he rejects the prosecution accusation of putting “incriminating material” in the locker.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 4h4 hours ago

Defendant tells #NickTrial that he wrote a document “Too Many Secrets”, but this was a private document not meant for publication, which was part of trying to deal with what had happened to him.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 4h4 hours ago

Defendant rejects prosecution accusation at #NickTrial that he copied parts of his story from a book. He had read the book because it told of similar experiences of another survivor, he says.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 4h4 hours ago

Defendant confirms to #NickTrial that he met Tom Watson. He thinks that Mark Conrad arranged this. Conrad also attended the meeting.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 4h4 hours ago

He accepts that he downloaded indecent images and the charge of voyeurism, defendant tells #NickTrial.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 4h4 hours ago

Why did he initially deny it? Defendant tells #NickTrial: “I was totally ashamed of what I had done. I couldn’t admit it to myself. I was in denial.”

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 4h4 hours ago

Defendant to #NickTrial: he and his son decided to live in Sweden because he had connections with Scandanavia through his grandparents. 

He was planning to change his name, which is why he sometimes used other names in Sweden.

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 4h4 hours ago

He returned from Sweden to UK for court hearings for his images case, but not for the trial, defendant confirms to #NickTrial.

Why did he not return? “It was a stupid mistake on my part. I panicked. I was alone. I regret it.”

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 4h4 hours ago

Defendant tells #NickTrial that he did not know how to evade justice for the images case, and that he was not intending to do that. “I knew I was going to come back in the end. My head was all over the place.”

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Mark Watts‏ @MarkWatts_1 4h4 hours ago

Defendant to #NickTrial: I was not trying to evade justice. “I was already living in Sweden.”

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