Friday 2 July 2021

CHINA - 'FREE AS BIRDS'


Xi Jinping

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Economics sage Jeffrey Snider, reminds us that China's leader President Xi Jinping (born 1953), went through a good deal of hardship and abuse as a teenager. 


Xi's father, Xi Zhongxun, was close to Mao Zedong but fell out of favour in 1962, and then the whole family suffered public abuse during the 1966-76 Cultural Revolution, so awful that Xi's half-sister apparently hanged herself. 


"Subjected to any number of abuses, China’s future leader Xi Jinping, once escaped from the school confinement he was being held to see his mother Qi Xin, who promptly turned him in to authorities. 


"In 1968, the younger Xi was locked up “three or four times” and made to endure daily sessions of psychological torment when, among other things, he was forced to publicly denounce his own father (and on one occasion he was made to witness his own mother publicly denouncing him). 

"Writing thirty years later in 1998, Xi Jinping recalled it as, “Fat in January, thin in February; half-dead in March and April.” He was rescued when millions of students were sent out to the countryside to be “rehabilitated” among China’s poor peasant farmers. 

"In a tiny place called Liangjiahe, Xi toiled in hard labor in the needed obscurity away from the menacing politics of his father and his family’s disgrace. 


"“When I arrived at the Yellow Earth, at 15, I was anxious and confused. When I left the Yellow Earth, at 22, my life goals were firm and I was filled with confidence," wrote Xi. 

"Once Mao mercifully died in 1976, disgraced leadership were restored. 

"In December 1978, President Xi's father Xi Zhongxun was brought back from the political dead and rehabilitated, his career and reputation rejuvenated. 

"The elder Xi would play a key role, persuading Deng Xiaoping to give him the top spot in Guangdong Province, the very ground zero of economic reform where modern China would be born." 

In 2013, President Xi had the party publish 'Document No. 9', denouncing Western neo-liberalism sold as 'globalisation', as causing catastrophe around the world, and mandating that China not follow down that pathway.


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Jeffrey Snider is the brilliant writer who tries to remind people that the US dollar is much further from collapsing than most think, because of its key role in international credit pyramids ... for years, Snider has correctly predicted the dollar's cycles, just as in recent days the dollar's value has perked back up again


China?

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Nothing has changed here in China. 

There may as well be no virus. At all. 

All the hysteria in the West is completely absent here. 

We're all as free as birds. 

No, seriously. It's essentially no different now to when I arrived here six years ago. 

Go where you want, do what you want, whenever you want, all completely unchecked. 

Further, along those lines I should say that, best I can make out, everything I see in the Western media in regards to China is arrant bullshit. 

It's all as precisely true as the WMDs in Iraq. 

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On you youtube there's a Canadian guy wandering around Xinjiang (where everyone is enslaved according to the West) filming whatever he pleases, even cops (most of whom seem to be Uighurs, unsurprisingly) and they laughing and friendly and happy to be interviewed - which precisely accords with my experiences with them here in my town. 

He also interviews taxi drivers and various whomevers who are keen to express their anger that their province is being depicted so falsely. 

Interestingly he's been going to the map coordinates issued by the West of supposed slave labour camps and finding nothing but primary schools and kindergartens all of which do have walls, gates, and cameras but only because all schools are like this in China. 

Not like any of it makes any difference since parents, grandparents, kids, vendors, even yours truly, can wander in and out completely unchecked. 

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If anyone wants to see, his channel is called 'numuves'. 

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There's another chap (whose name I forget but he's an Englishman) who has actually visited the families of various 'refugees' who have appeared in Western videos and followed them (the family members) to all the germane sites as they categorically (and perfectly convincingly) dismantle all that individual's claims of oppression, torture, fear, whatever. 

Best regards etc. etc.

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Unknown commented on "CHINA - 'FREE AS BIRDS'"

'Every nation has things you get in trouble for talking about But what is quite interesting, is that the number of things you can't talk about, seems to be smaller in China 

'The kind of social discussion involving ethnic, religious, gender and other factors, which used to be allowed in the West, is now often difficult or forbidden here - but in China these topics are more easily discussed 

'Open direct critique of the party running the government, is less easily done in China, of course ... but people have a feeling that, across the larger run of issues affecting daily life, China is a freer place 

'Along the same lines - "The US and some other Western nations held up as “models of liberal democracy” are rapidly turning into totalitarian regimes reminiscent of the Soviet Union, the head of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service has claimed. 

'Speaking on Thursday at the Moscow Conference on International Security, Sergey Naryshkin claimed that there are “almost all signs of a totalitarian dictatorship” in some Western countries, including a “monopoly on the media,” the “police nature of the state,” and the “irremovability of oligarchic elites.”

https://www.rt.com/russia/527459-naryshkin-mcis-america-totalitarian-dictatorship/

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Let’s be careful not to conflate and confuse two different but related conceptions of free speech. 

It is, of course entirely possible to have a society in which there exists relatively extensive *legal* and constitutional protections for non-private controversial communication (e.g. communication which is fiercely critical of government, politicians, authorities or customs), yet, for the same society to simultaneously experience significant *cultural-societal* restrictions on free speech. 

Meaning: ‘free speech’ that would be permissible under, or even protected by, legislation is effectively curtailed or prohibited by social conditions and/or the influence of certain powerful organisations, groups or individuals who utilise social or commercial influence, rather than the law, to curtail the speech they don’t want. 

Those who ‘offend’ the ‘offended’ may be intimidated, persecuted or punished socially and/or financially for speaking their minds, or even dissuaded from speaking freely in the first place, out of a (justified) fear of losing their job, position, public esteem, or some other social status. 


As well as the powerful influence of public opinion and the ‘thought leaders’ or social ‘influencers’, we also have to contend with the power of the ‘gatekeepers’ of mass communication to effectively curb free speech. 

The gatekeepers can do this by ‘no platforming’ certain facts, ideas, opinions, and individuals... i.e. keeping them off the screen, off the airwaves, off the stage, and off the printed page. 

In such cases the (owners of) television, radio, newspaper, film, web, and social media companies, etc. place restrictions on what can be said or broadcast via their publishing platforms. 

This is done for commercial and/or political reasons. Usually both. 

It is right to expose, criticise and campaign against the de facto limitations that exist on free speech in Western countries. 

These de facto limitations tend to come from society and its norms, traditions and customs; from powerful organisations, groups and individuals; and/or from corporate and state gatekeepers of ‘acceptable’ public communication. 

But while criticising the curtailment of meaningful free speech in respect of certain topics in the West today, we should not attempt to excuse the legal and constitutional prohibitions on free speech which are much more prevalent in the developing world, including in China. 

I do not want my neighbours, employer or fellow citizens to have right of veto over what I may or may not say or write for an audience. 

But nor do I wish to live in a country in which the government or other state actors claim the legal authority to police my public communication. 

China is very far from being the best example of a state and a society that promotes freedom of expression.



Ted Irwin commented

Young Australian man with an enquiring mind has given me HOPE. 

He wants to understand China - so I sent him your link. 

This is Garry Freake... the ONLY person in Australia - non Chinese who is THINKING.

 https://www.facebook.com/garry.freake 

You should see his great posters re: Scott Morrison taking China on. 

And did you know why PM Rudd was taken down? Not anti Chinese enough for OBAMA. Yep US runs our politics. 11 years ago June. Quote: "Secret US diplomatic cables published by WikiLeaks in December 2010 revealed that “protected sources” of the US embassy were pivotal figures in Gillard’s elevation. For months, key coup plotters, including senators Mark Arbib and David Feeney, and Australian Workers Union (AWU) chief Paul Howes, secretly provided the US embassy with regular updates on internal government discussions and divisions within the leadership... 

Rudd was fully committed to the US military alliance, as Labor has been since World War II. 

But the cables showed that the Obama administration had become increasingly hostile to Rudd’s unwanted diplomatic initiatives, launched without reference to Washington, to ease rising tensions between the US and China, on whose markets Australian big business depended heavily. 

Rudd had proposed an Asia-Pacific Community, attempting to mediate the escalating strategic rivalry between the US and China, and opposed the formation of a Quadrilateral military alliance between the US, India, Japan and Australia, aimed against China." 

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/06/24/coup-j24.html?fbclid=IwAR3cOzTBAbmYvlY4pKhZkYsEAt_XGFBBeylM7wo4GdT8U09ZbVqkcBp6pw8



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I very much agree with above statements. The following video is basically contradicting the narrative, that the Chinese are free to discuss whatever subjects, specifically the matter of „Social Credits“.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7mhkx1 

I am strongly assuming, that China and the Western world are closely cooperating at the top level. 

(The book „Dope Inc“ is evidencing, that the City of London (via Hong Kong) did already cooperate very closely with Mao in dealing dope / laundring money) 

Today Swiss customs is giving preferential treatment to shipments from Aliexpress in not applying VAT on the value of the shipment and ignoring value declarations which are obviously too low. 

In contrast shipments out of the EC are subjected to pay VAT even for small amounts. 

China is favoured over Europe / USA, most certainly in connection with the introduction of NWO. 

Caveman


The UK.

James R commented -

The difference between the West and China largely rests on the fact that the Chinese government has already solidified open tyranny and totalitarianism; whilst tyranny is still in the process of being established in the West. 

Once the people who sit atop the West have crushed all resistance to the program of technocracy, they too will presumably relax. 

It will still be tyranny and they will still be the enemies of humanity but all who are willing to resist will have disappeared. 

The notion that "we are very free here so long as we don't criticise the government" is hilarious, infantile nonsense.







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11 Comments:

At 29 June 2021 at 02:19 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every nation has things you get in trouble for talking about

But what is quite interesting, is that the number of things you can't talk about, seems to be smaller in China

The kind of social discussion involving ethnic, religious, gender and other factors, which used to be allowed in the West, is now often difficult or forbidden here - but in China these topics are more easily discussed

Open direct critique of the party running the government, is less easily done in China, of course ... but people have a feeling that, across the larger run of issues affecting daily life, China is a freer place

Along the same lines -

« The US and some other Western nations held up as “models of liberal democracy” are rapidly turning into totalitarian regimes reminiscent of the Soviet Union, the head of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service has claimed.

Speaking on Thursday at the Moscow Conference on International Security, Sergey Naryshkin claimed that there are “almost all signs of a totalitarian dictatorship” in some Western countries, including a “monopoly on the media,” the “police nature of the state,” and the “irremovability of oligarchic elites.” »

https://www.rt.com/russia/527459-naryshkin-mcis-america-totalitarian-dictatorship/

 
At 29 June 2021 at 06:14 , Anonymous Ted Irwin said...

Young Australian man with an enquiring mind has given me HOPE. He wants to understand China - so I sent him your link. This is Garry Freake... the ONLY person in Australia - non Chinese who is THINKING. https://www.facebook.com/garry.freake You should see his great posters re: Scott Morrison taking China on. And did you know why PM Rudd was taken down? Not anti Chinese enough for OBAMA. Yep US runs our politics. 11 years ago June. Quote: "Secret US diplomatic cables published by WikiLeaks in December 2010 revealed that “protected sources” of the US embassy were pivotal figures in Gillard’s elevation. For months, key coup plotters, including senators Mark Arbib and David Feeney, and Australian Workers Union (AWU) chief Paul Howes, secretly provided the US embassy with regular updates on internal government discussions and divisions within the leadership... Rudd was fully committed to the US military alliance, as Labor has been since World War II. But the cables showed that the Obama administration had become increasingly hostile to Rudd’s unwanted diplomatic initiatives, launched without reference to Washington, to ease rising tensions between the US and China, on whose markets Australian big business depended heavily.

Rudd had proposed an Asia-Pacific Community, attempting to mediate the escalating strategic rivalry between the US and China, and opposed the formation of a Quadrilateral military alliance between the US, India, Japan and Australia, aimed against China." https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/06/24/coup-j24.html?fbclid=IwAR3cOzTBAbmYvlY4pKhZkYsEAt_XGFBBeylM7wo4GdT8U09ZbVqkcBp6pw8

 
At 29 June 2021 at 06:19 , Anonymous Ted Irwin said...

Why PM Rudd was taken out by Obama: "Rudd was fully committed to the US military alliance, as Labor has been since World War II. But the cables showed that the Obama administration had become increasingly hostile to Rudd’s unwanted diplomatic initiatives, launched without reference to Washington, to ease rising tensions between the US and China, on whose markets Australian big business depended heavily.

Rudd had proposed an Asia-Pacific Community, attempting to mediate the escalating strategic rivalry between the US and China, and opposed the formation of a Quadrilateral military alliance between the US, India, Japan and Australia, aimed against China." USA had looked at Gillard in 2008. To me this is a continuation of the 2005 City of London plan 'China is growing too big too fast. China will catch a cold." If you see the photo of Alistair Rothschild (London) with Obama's arm around him chatting to Susan Rice etc. you might get the picture. Oh and the book written in 2015 with Wuhan as the center for a virus that spreads world wide... suggestive of preplanned years ago. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw4z-rSwNjY and
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/06/24/coup-j24.html?fbclid=IwAR3cOzTBAbmYvlY4pKhZkYsEAt_XGFBBeylM7wo4GdT8U09ZbVqkcBp6pw8

 
At 29 June 2021 at 07:06 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/744125/response/1774876/attach/html/4/FOI%20060421%20Response.pdf.html

 
At 29 June 2021 at 08:51 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let’s be careful not to conflate and confuse two different but related conceptions of free speech.

It is, of course entirely possible to have a society in which there exists relatively extensive *legal* and constitutional protections for non-private controversial communication (e.g. communication which is fiercely critical of government, politicians, authorities or customs), yet, for the same society to simultaneously experience significant *cultural-societal* restrictions on free speech.

Meaning: ‘free speech’ that would be permissible under, or even protected by, legislation is effectively curtailed or prohibited by social conditions and/or the influence of certain powerful organisations, groups or individuals who utilise social or commercial influence, rather than the law, to curtail the speech they don’t want.

Those who ‘offend’ the ‘offended’ may be intimidated, persecuted or punished socially and/or financially for speaking their minds, or even dissuaded from speaking freely in the first place, out of a (justified) fear of losing their job, position, public esteem, or some other social status.

As well as the powerful influence of public opinion and the ‘thought leaders’ or social ‘influencers’, we also have to contend with the power of the ‘gatekeepers’ of mass communication to effectively curb free speech. The gatekeepers can do this by ‘no platforming’ certain facts, ideas, opinions, and individuals... i.e. keeping them off the screen, off the airwaves, off the stage, and off the printed page.

In such cases the (owners of) television, radio, newspaper, film, web, and social media companies, etc. place restrictions on what can be said or broadcast via their publishing platforms. This is done for commercial and/or political reasons. Usually both.

It is right to expose, criticise and campaign against the de facto limitations that exist on free speech in Western countries. These de facto limitations tend to come from society and its norms, traditions and customs; from powerful organisations, groups and individuals; and/or from corporate and state gatekeepers of ‘acceptable’ public communication.

But while criticising the curtailment of meaningful free speech in respect of certain topics in the West today, we should not attempt to excuse the legal and constitutional prohibitions on free speech which are much more prevalent in the developing world, including in China.

I do not want my neighbours, employer or fellow citizens to have right of veto over what I may or may not say or write for an audience. But nor do I wish to live in a country in which the government or other state actors claim the legal authority to police my public communication.

China is very far from being the best example of a state and a society that promotes freedom of expression.

 
At 29 June 2021 at 09:00 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://www.mintpressnews.com/reddit-jessica-ashooh-spies-in-our-media-with-alan-macleod/277800/

 
At 29 June 2021 at 10:34 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I very much agree with above statements. Following video is basically contradicting the narrative, that the Chinese are free to discuss whatever subjects, specifically the matter of „Social Credits“.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7mhkx1
I am strongly assuming, that China and the Western world are closely cooperating at the top level.
(the book „Dope Inc“ is evidencing, that the City of London (via Hong Kong) did already cooperate very closely with Mao in dealing dope / laundring money)
Today Swiss customs is giving preferential treatment to shipments from Aliexpress in not applying VAT on the value of the shipment and ignoring value declarations which are obviously too low. In contrast shipments out of the EC are subjected to pay VAT even for small amounts.
China is favoured over Europe / USA, most certainly in connection with the introduction of NWO.
Caveman

 
At 29 June 2021 at 13:00 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://www.globalresearch.ca/overcoming-hypnosis-fear/5748847

 
At 29 June 2021 at 23:47 , Blogger James R said...

The difference between the West and China largely rests on the fact that the Chinese government has already solidified open tyranny and totalitarianism whilst it is still in the process of being established in the West.
Once the people who sit atop the West have crushed all resistance to the program of technocracy, they too will presumably relax.
It will still be tyranny and they will still be the enemies of humanity but all who are willing to resist will have disappeared.
The notion that "we are very free here so long as we don't criticise the government" is hilarious, infantile nonsense.

 
At 2 July 2021 at 12:58 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Economics sage Jeffrey Snider, reminds us that China's leader President Xi Jinping (born 1953), went through a good deal of hardship and abuse as a teenager.

His father, Xi Zhongxun, was close to Mao Zedong but fell out of favour in 1962, and then the whole family suffered public abuse during the 1966-76 Cultural Revolution, so awful that Xi's half-sister apparently hanged herself.

« Subjected to any number of abuses, China’s future leader Xi Jinping, once escaped from the school confinement he was being held to see his mother Qi Xin, who promptly turned him in to authorities. In 1968, the younger Xi was locked up “three or four times” and made to endure daily sessions of psychological torment when, among other things, he was forced to publicly denounce his own father (and on one occasion he was made to witness his own mother publicly denouncing him).

Writing thirty years later in 1998, Xi Jinping recalled it as, “Fat in January, thin in February; half-dead in March and April.” He was rescued when millions of students were sent out to the countryside to be “rehabilitated” among China’s poor peasant farmers. In a tiny place called Liangjiahe, Xi toiled in hard labor in the needed obscurity away from the menacing politics of his father and his family’s disgrace.

“When I arrived at the Yellow Earth, at 15, I was anxious and confused. When I left the Yellow Earth, at 22, my life goals were firm and I was filled with confidence," wrote Xi.

Once Mao mercifully died in 1976, disgraced leadership were restored. In December 1978, President Xi's father Xi Zhongxun was brought back from the political dead and rehabilitated, his career and reputation rejuvenated.

The elder Xi would play a key role, persuading Deng Xiaoping to give him the top spot in Guangdong Province, the very ground zero of economic reform where modern China would be born. »

In 2013, President Xi had the party publish 'Document No. 9', denouncing Western neo-liberalism sold as 'globalisation', as causing catastrophe around the world, and mandating that China not follow down that pathway.

https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2021/07/02/the_china_of_today_thinks_nothing_but_its_own_terms_783922.html

Jeffrey Snider is the brilliant writer who tries to remind people that the US dollar is much further from collapsing than most think, because of its key role in international credit pyramids ... for years, Snider has correctly predicted the dollar's cycles, just as in recent days the dollar's value has perked back up again

 
At 3 July 2021 at 22:29 , Blogger WaffleStaffel said...

"infantile nonsense." Nice. That's a great way to underscore the objectivity of the point you're trying to make and distinguish yourself from the hordes of automatons regurgitating MSM talking points.

 

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