Saturday 2 January 2016

PUTIN; DISINFORMATION

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Disinformation; William Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse.

Below we see some comments on Putin, and other topics.


brabantian 1 January 2016 at 02:17

Increasing millions of Russians are viewing Vladimir Putin as a sell-out to the Western powers & to Western oligarchs ... who has the role of keeping the war machine going as alleged 'opposition' but really a staged conflict partner ... not to mention being a total sell-out to Putin's close friend Netanyahu of Israel, allowing Israel to kill Russia's allies inside Syria

Israel Shamir, Russian-Israeli-Jewish convert to Orthodox Christianity, describes some of this ... including pointing to a suddenly viral video in Russia, with over 2.2 million views, attacking Putin for allowing Russia's giant state-funded & dominated media operation to be carrying Nato-tied propaganda ... Indeed media such as RT Russian Today have become shockingly weak

There has never been any good answer as to why Putin let tens of thousands of Russian-speakers be killed in East Ukraine, after the satanic 2 May 2014 Odessa massacre burning dozens alive & strangling a pregnant woman to death

When Putin could have moved troops in to protect his fellow Russians on his doorstep ... Western 'sanctions' etc would have been just the same

As Russian military & security services contemplate how Putin may be dancing with the West to produce an edge-of-World-War-III scenario ...

We possibly have a potential coup in Russia, with the removal of 'traitor' Putin in favour of someone like Colonel Igor 'Strelkov' Gurkin (hero of East Ukraine fighting whom Putin blackmailed to come home by threatening to cut off Donbass supplies) - who will more truly oppose the West & not draw-out & prolong conflicts as is being done in Ukraine & Syria ...along with perhaps restoration of the Tsar in a Constitutional Russian monarchyReplyDelete


Anonymous1 January 2016 at 06:28

It sounds to me like Putin is trying to avoid a war with the West which would go nuclear and then we'll be all dead. I like Putin, I think he's the good guy. The neocons are trying to get Russia's top fighter planes shot down to bankrupt the country. They are trying to push Russia further into a war. Although he may seem to be appeasing the West, I hope he carries on making Russia strong by improving its economy. War isn't the answer. It's up to us in the West to hunt down the criminal neoconservatives and put them in prison. Blair should be one of the first to go in.ReplyDelete


Anonymous1 January 2016 at 10:38

Please don't fall for the long con, Putin is only positioning himself and Communism as the 'savior' of the despotic and immoral West. The plan is all chronicled quite proper in George Orwell's fictional novel 1984.

ASolo


Anonymous 1 January 2016 at 15:45

Putin is not a communist. As you have no idea what Putin is, there is no punt in me discussing this with you anymore.


Anonymous 2 January 2016 at 09:22

It is fine if you do not want to discuss it anymore with me but I will continue to discuss it with you. Vladimir Putin has had to do some very bad things first to become the prime minister he is today and has to do some very bad things to remain prime minister, for the past 16 years.

The first red flag should be that A Number One, he is a politician. Period. ( I should not have to add this bit of emphasis but I feel I should).

Second. Communism is the law of the land. Nothing good can ever come from man-made governmental communism, human beings are simply too corruptible at this stage in our evolution. It is an unrealistic governmental structure, but, the El-ites have realized that this is the system which benefits them the most. You are beyond all help if you do not realize the importance of how the Jews transformed Russia with the Bolshevik Revolution, this was an orchestrated move to eliminate the aristocracy of Russia and replace it with Jewish communist rule. It has been that way for over a hundred years now with untold amounts of poverty and genocide. The same goes with any example found in Communist China. Entire cities are wiped out at will, people disappear, well, if you do not know the horrors of communism then you are hopelessly lost to begin with. To claim that Russia is any less than communist you really need to consult a history book. Putin is not communist, what a joke!

cont'd...




Anonymous 2 January 2016 at 09:22

If you take a careful look at The Economist for 2016, you will see tucked down under Putin's bear like chest is a globe, with a pale white horse atop that world. Does that ring any bells? I would guess that if you are Roman Catholic or Christian you would have an idea what that is about. Word on the street is that somehow, somewhere, Putin, or someone out of Russia, will claim descent from the Line of David, and therefore Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and claim to be the risen christ or a representative thereof. There has already been an allusion to the Greek Orthodoxy of Russia having had special powers transferred over to them from Rome and Russia has already been branded the 'savior' and protector of Christianity. Meanwhile, the West is slated for demonization.

Can't you see that it is all a play? I guess you would not be able to if you were wrapped up in the Christian fantasy. What with all of it's intricate mind traps well written into the script itself? With nothing but thousands of years behind it to back it up. People just can't wrap their head around the breadth of time these people have had to work on this plan. The entire Bible was written by them and implemented, slowly, over time by them! If you do not notice they are following a script and are duping MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of Christians, Jews, and Muslims en masse by FAKING the second coming... very, very soon.

The West has been integrally demonized, deconstructed and villainized for the past 50 years and more, ever since WWII, because 3 wars are needed for their plan. The US and Britain along with other countries has been a breeding pit for criminals and crazies, intentionally created as an excuse to clean up the immoral West when the forces are meant to be posited. Obama, of course, will be exposed as the international spy that he is, the American Congress will be called out as the pedophiles they are, and the American public will be blamed for ushering all of these elements in by the rest of the world. The rest of the world will be told that America has been behind these terrorist atrocities for as long as 9/11, but we all know that the same elements have been doing this for CENTURIES.

Don't be fooled by the short con, the short con is trying to get as many as possible within the TWO camps, the EVIL West, and the honest and benevolent Russian Christian East, so that 2/3rds of America can BE THE NEW SACRIFICE FOR YHWH, the IMPETUS that will clamor the world and make the world call for staunch change and a NEW ONE WORLD GOVERNING BODY (in a MUCH bigger Israel)THAT INCLUDES THE CHURCH AS ARBITER FOR AN OVERALL 'CLEANSING' OF ALL THE EVIL IN THE WORLD.

All Abrahamic religions are of the Nephilim, even Jesus is 'in on it' (Mr. Morning Star himself). Dont choose any of them. Don't choose anything that calls itself religion and with all your might try and feel the real Prime Creator.

God Bless, God Speed

AkhaldanSolo


Michael K.2 January 2016 at 11:24

When you say that Jesus is in on it with the demonized plan for a totalitarian world state, where do you get the ability to say that with certainty and authority?

Anyone can tell that Jesus was against their evil plans. What they do with his memory and name is evil, that much is apparent. But whether He is evil, consider that he gave up His life to restore us to peace and harmony with Creator and Creation.

His message was a rejection of the ways of the world, those ways which you say drive the whole thing. I don't see how you can condemn Him too, and join the whole mob of Pharisees and others who hate Him.

Regarding Putin's appearance on the magazine cover, it brings to mind "Behold a Pale Horse", the title of William Cooper's book and a reference to the the Antichrist, the one who tries deceptively to take Christ's glory from before Man.


Anonymous 2 January 2016 at 12:55

AkhaldanSolo I read your post with much interest re the Nephilim, religion etc. For a while now I have been unable to pray 'religious' prayers as I feel 'they're' stealing my 'consent' for the negative, so I make my own prayers now direct to God. Re what you say to the other commenter 'with all your might try and feel the real Prime Creator'would you mind if I asked you if you could/would recommend some reading material that in your opinion could be of great assistance to those of us who trust in God but do not trust religions? I do hope you don't mind me asking AkhaldanSolo ... love and light x


Michael K. 1 January 2016 at 10:01

Don't expect Putin to give up. This is challenge to his power might push him to start a territorial war to both bolster his credibility as an anti-Western player and to give him an income from conquered spoils to prop up the Russian economy and his band of cronies in charge of much of it. He is not going to let go of power because it would literally result in his death if his enemies exposed his full malfeasance to public legal scrutiny. This is one of the more personal reasons autocrats hang on as long as they can.

OURS GO TO ELEVEN:

http://ellenbrown.com/2015/12/29/a-crisis-worse-than-isis-bail-ins-begin/

"[It is] entirely possible in the next banking crisis that depositors in giant too-big-to-fail failing banks could have their money confiscated and turned into equity shares. . . .

If your too-big-to-fail (TBTF) bank is failing because they can’t pay off derivative bets they made, and the government refuses to bail them out, under a mandate titled “Adequacy of Loss-Absorbing Capacity of Global Systemically Important Banks in Resolution,” approved on Nov. 16, 2014, by the G20’s Financial Stability Board, they can take your deposited money and turn it into shares of equity capital to try and keep your TBTF bank from failing.

Once your money is deposited in the bank, it legally becomes the property of the bank. Gilani explains:

Your deposited cash is an unsecured debt obligation of your bank. It owes you that money back.

If you bank with one of the country’s biggest banks, who collectively have trillions of dollars of derivatives they hold “off balance sheet” (meaning those debts aren’t recorded on banks’ GAAP balance sheets), those debt bets have a superior legal standing to your deposits and get paid back before you get any of your cash.

. . . Big banks got that language inserted into the 2010 Dodd-Frank law meant to rein in dangerous bank behavior."


Anonymous1 January 2016 at 10:33

Were The _______ Predicted On The January Cover Of The Economist 2016?
http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-603733.html

ASolo

Happy New Year Ladies and Readers!
May God Bless In All Your Endeavor


Anon1 January 2016 at 11:45

Happy New Year to you.

- Aangirfan.


Anonymous 1 January 2016 at 15:59

I like Putin. We're lucky to have him. There could another psychopath in charge there, like the way US presidents usually are.

The US government has always been run by psychopaths. Its ruling class is psychopathic. 20 to 30 million people are dead because of US foreign policy. No wonder the Russians are scared.


Anonymous 2 January 2016 at 11:13

It looks like your numbers are jut a bit conservative. An upwards of 50-60 Million people died in WWII alone if you combine every factor from Hiroshima and Nagasaki, to Russian losses in upwards of 20-25 Million, along with the American and British Dresden and Hellfire, numbers get a little staggering. Now, if we combine every war with every loss, even those that didn't die immediately and from slow radiation poisoning, along with incidents like say, the East Timor Genocide that Henry Kissinger and every President after Nixon up till Clinton was involved in that killed up to 100,000 East Timorians, right down to the phosphoric acid BP spill in Bhopal, India that wiped out an entire village. Of course from there we would have to inspect the genocides of Communist nations like China with Mao Tse-tung who is at 78,000,000, to Pol Pot of Cambodia, who is at 1,700,000, which leads us to another one of the 'originators' of the biggest 'freedom cons' ever, Communism, of Josef Stalin, who is at 23,000,000. The list goes on and on...

So, you want to look at the PROGENITOR of communism and then examine Putin and his Communism as if it has somehow miraculously completely reformed and is now a bright new shiny model of human freedom you are SERIOUSLY deluding yourself.

AkhaldanSolo


Anonymous2 January 2016 at 12:02

AkhaldanSolo, that's a powerful post ...


Anonymous 2 January 2016 at 14:20

Some good points there, so what you're saying is that the capitalist free West had killed hundreds of millions more people than the communists have ever done. But two wrongs don't make a right of course.


Anonymous 1 January 2016 at 23:00

Some misinformed people here gave been here Putin bashing. Well I've got news for you, you've been fed US propaganda and you've fallen for it. From Stephan Lendman's site.

Putin responded to Washington’s provocative Eastern European expansion, saying Russia “will be forced to aim our armed forces…at those territories from where the threat comes.”

“It is (US-led nuclear armed and dangerous) NATO that is moving towards our border, and we aren’t moving anywhere.”

Russia’s Foreign Ministry accused Washington of “inciting tensions and carefully nurturing (its) European allies’ anti-Russian phobias (as a pretext for) expanding its military presence and influence in Europe” - threatening world peace.

Key US NATO allies Britain, France, Germany, Turkey and others march in lockstep with its aggressive anti-Russian policy. Its officials have just cause for concern.

Russian lower house State Duma Speaker Sergey Naryshkin called NATO a “cancer tumor” in Europe. World peace depends on its “disband(ment).”

“This could be done in several stages,” he said. First “expel” America. Disbandment could “painlessly” follow - a vital step toward “strengthening security and stability on the European continent,” he stressed.

Russia’s updated national security strategy cited other significant threats - including internally or externally instigated color revolutions, a US specialty, threatening its sovereignty by undermining and destabilizing its political integrity.

US bioweapons threaten its security, the document saying its “network of…biological military labs is expanding on the territories of countries bordering Russia.”

Its “independent foreign and domestic policy has been met with counteraction by the US and its allies, seeking to maintain” unchallenged global dominance, including by marginalizing, containing, weakening and isolating Russia, a high-risk confrontational policy assuring no winners.

US-installed fascists in Ukraine pose a direct threat to Russia’s security. Their regime represents a “long-term source of instability in Europe and directly at the Russian border” - an intolerable situation forcing Putin to respond appropriately, at the same time fostering peace and stability.

Moscow wants nuclear proliferation constrained, urging “the creation of appropriate conditions that will enable a reduction of nuclear weapons without damaging international security and strategic stability” - perhaps a first step toward eliminating these hugely destructive weapons once and for all.


Anonymous 2 January 2016 at 01:41

The Western ruling elite conquered the World a few centuries ago. They ransacked India and Africa, and made inroads into China. The opium wars. China was almost completely defeated. They only made a come back after the communist revolution.

But the West never conquered Russia. Now you think that after plundering the rest of the world and nearly destroying it the Western ruling elite would have been rich enough, but no, they lusted after Russia's wealth too.

So rich Western bankers funded the Russian communist revolution to break the country up and get rid of the Tsar. The Tsar had public banks and would not let Western private banks into Russia. Russia is also a country rich in raw materials too. Our running class wanted the lot no matter how many people it left dead.

Western bankers gave that psychopath and criminal, Stalin, the money to fund his revolution. Like the way the West sponsors colour revolutions in the Middle East to destroy those countries, it was doing the same thing over a hundred years ago in Russia.

The mega rich hate communism, but they will fund any terrorists, bandits, criminals, psychopaths, to get what they want in another country. And that's all its wealth, and then they they will turn its people into slaves and call it capitalism.

And the stupid minded libertarians will say that they only way to end poverty is for people to work harder. That it is poor people's fault that they are poor. They say being poor is a choice, and that no one needs to be poor. So the answer to poverty is for poor people to go out there and work their nuts off(and most probably still never achieve anything) and then get successful by starting to their own businesses where they can exploit other poor people as well, the lame, the desperate, the unfortunate, the low intelligent, the sick, and turn them into slaves to be abused as objects. That's psychopathology.


Anonymous 2 January 2016 at 03:03

Welcome to the real world, Putin is no saint either, ure just another one who got fooled



Anonymous 2 January 2016 at 04:58

‘Criticism may not be agreeable but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body; it calls attention to the development of an unhealthy state of things. If it is heeded in time, danger may be averted; if it is suppressed, a fatal distemper may develop.'

Winston Churchill. Anathema to Putin apologists and others no doubt, not a total ignoramus re potical strategy however.


Anonymous2 January 2016 at 12:07

Putin is no saint, because as a rile of thumb no leader is, but where did you get your info about him? I quite like him, he is softly spoken and very reasonable.

If your information came libertarians, conservatives, or the mainstream media then you have been misinformed. Putin might become problem if he got more power, or he might not, who knows, but right now all the evil is coming from the US, and its vassals states like the UK and Europe. Anyone who follows the Aangirfan site will know this.

If Putin is standing up to this evil then there's hope it can be defeated and we can all be set free, and set free from this miserable form of fake capitalism that destroys countries, causes mass immigration, ruins our environment, drives everyone into poverty and slavery, and causes endless wars for profits.

Welcome to the real world.


Anonymous 2 January 2016 at 13:47

Winston Churchill was scum, another psychopath, probably worse than Hitler. Another mass murderer.

Anonymous 1 January 2016 at 12:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm880Koy4Uo

Anonymous 1 January 2016 at 22:39

And happy new year to you Aangirfan.

You put in a lot of hard work, perhaps you're hoping you're going to help change the world; because it is so bad, we have to try. I find lots of interesting stuff here and I pass it on to other prominent people and sites. And stuff I find there that I post here. Let's hope ordinary people wake up and see what's going on.

You work very hard at this, Aangirfan, and I do my small bit too. Let's hope eventually some of it pays off. Lets hope we finally see some of these bastards in prison, or all of them in prison.


I had this fantasy the other day. I woke up and all in the news it said that there had been a coup in America. Obama may have even been behind it, and all the neocons had been arrested for treason.

That grinning Blair should be the first to go to prison. When he was bombing Iraq hundreds of thousands were being killed or maimed, because it estimated that for every one person killed ten more people are injured. At the height of the bombing campaign he was boasting to the press that he was at it 15 times a night, or more. People have lost limbs, been made death and blind, thousands of families have lost love ones, and many mothers will probably never get over it, their lives ruined forever, and Blair is full of himself boasting about his sexual gymnastics. Bastard! No wonder you work so hard at this, Aangirfan.

Anonymous 2 January 2016 at 07:04

Sex rituals during terror drills?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/world/europe/belgium-brussels-police-orgy.html?_r=0

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At 3 January 2016 at 09:36 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 3 January 2016 at 10:27 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, It seems I have gotten myself into a bit of a pickle. How can I sort this out in my own brain and have it make any sense to you? Hmmm. Should I start with William Cooper? Do I believe in William Cooper and all of his information? I believe William Cooper insofar as he was tasked, as Naval Intelligence, and controlled opposition, to disseminate the materials he did, to the level of benevolence and altruism that motivated him I do not know. What IS important is that he was the first to posit that there was an evil plan afoot AND that it happen to include elements of Revelations. It is not that I endorse the philosophy of William Cooper as a whole yet his material did happen to be one of the first publications that helped part of the populace have a quick glimpse of how the El-ites work, "Silent Weapons For Silent Wars" is required reading for any serious 'conspiratorialist'. The ONLY salient reason I posted anything pertaining to "Behold A Pale White Horse" is that I really do believe that the author and artist of The Economist piece has some kind of real insight as to the events that are going to unfold in 2016, and there happens to be a white horse atop a globe in that Economist right under Putin. This cannot be mere coincidence. There is a very intricate plan to demonize the West, the lynchpin to the entire plan is getting the millions of uninformed Christians, Jews, and Muslims into believing that there is a force that is able to conquer this evil and restore the world back to it's former religious glory, that can't happen, because the Black hats, and the White hats in this game, are ONE IN THE SAME. The Black hats are there to force us into the White hat camp to beg for our safety and survival by bowing down to the one true savior, but all in all, all of it will be mere parlor tricks.

cont'd...

 
At 3 January 2016 at 10:28 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now, How can I unjumble this Jesus part? My God what have I done opening my mouth about this one? Lol. Ugh. Ok. I started to come to a realization that if I could separate the more 'Occult' and 'Magickal' abilities of "Jesus" like his turning water into wine, his miracles with bread and fish, being raised from the dead, and the Christian insistence that I eat of his body and drink of his blood (now that is even bypassing the parable and pesher according to staunch Christian philosophy because most Christians are required to understand it literally), and try to understand his pure doctrine without all of the fantasy, I could come to the realization that Jesus was 'Savior' ( I could not sort out any reason for believing if organized religion was going to fill me with fantasies that would not ever happen in 'the real world'). What I saw was that Jesus DID try and practice Natural Law AGAINST OPPRESSION, helped the poor and the infirm, but what people miss is the history and context of what Jesus was doing, he was a Jewish man fulfilling a very Jewish role. It seems as though we are working with two different historical constructs here. Jesus, the Roman construct which is a conglomeration of old world heroes that fights against oppression then becomes 'Godlike', and two, the Jewish Yaheshua, who came to uphold the Law of the Old Testament and wanted a proper Priest in the Temple and a proper King in Jerusalem and for the Throne of the Jews. Either way you can see the deception from the Romans, and you can see the deception around the premise of Yaheshua because he was still upholding the Kingship of the line of David (Necromancers and Sorcerers) and of the storm God YHWH, NOT the 'God' (Prime Creator) we all want to have 'faith' in. It surely does seem like ALL THREE Abrahamic religions are intentionally created by the Nephilim to usurp and deceive.

cont'd...

 
At 3 January 2016 at 10:28 , Anonymous Anonymous said...


I hope I made some sense. A reference that can help understand the esoteric importance of the Temple of Jerusalem and what it meant to the Jews at that time can be found in "The Hiram Key", written by two Freemasons that describe how the entire Jewish religion was simply a knockoff of the former 'great' Egyptian Kingdom AND how Egyptian rites were worked into the philosophy of the Freemasons. Example: The temple is based on esoteric principle of Ra worship in the sense that the two pillars, in one aspect symbolize the female labia, the temple situated facing the East, when the warm male sun rises, it fills the temple with the rejuvenating rays of life into the womb of the mother, the holy place where all life starts for human beings. These were some of the first secrets shown to the Hyksos (Jewish) usurping Kings of the Lower Kingdom that the Jews stole and were eventually expelled for in the Exodus, where Moses went to Mount Sinai, married a woman and adopted their 'Storm God' YHWH, Son of the Nephilim. And the sage continues to this day.

God Bess, God Speed.

AkhaldanSolo

 
At 3 January 2016 at 10:45 , Blogger Michael K. said...

Well researched and documented essay on Putin:

http://nonalignedmedia.com/2015/09/mixed-signals-from-moscow-putins-russia-israel-and-the-middle-east/

 
At 3 January 2016 at 11:00 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Putin had a long career with the KGB.

Putin was made the head of FSS/FSB, the Federal Security Service, a new agency which split the KGB to foreign and domestic divisions.......Putin got 'homeland security'.
It was the corrupt pig Yeltsin who promoted Putin.

The Moscow theater siege, the Chechen 'rebels' are topics which an interested person needs to research.
Putin's popularity surged after he 'got tough' on terrorists like Bush. The stench of red flag over the Chechen attack is strong, but the personal phone call from Tony Blair congratulating Vlad on fighting terror was especially telling..........all this right around the time when Vlad was arm in arm with GEORGE W BUSH talking war on terra, looking into each others eyes........c'mon people!

Numerous low key (shhhhh! we don't talk about this) visits with Henry Kissinger might also cause the astute reader to pause and research Putin with OBJECTIVITY.
Of course we are all just a bit afraid in this crazy world, we need a hero. So 'they' gave us one. A big fake, a well presented well marketed fake.


 
At 3 January 2016 at 12:00 , Blogger Michael K. said...

William Cooper Lost Interview (1999): complete denial of UFOs.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w-uTEIHqTuk

 
At 3 January 2016 at 16:04 , Blogger Michael K. said...

"An Israeli poll has named Russian President Vladimir Putin as their person of the year for 2015. Putin was the clear winner with almost 30 percent of the vote, ahead of German Chancellor Angela Merkel in second place."

https://www.rt.com/news/327710-putin-israel-2015-person/

 
At 3 January 2016 at 17:23 , Blogger Michael K. said...

Another must read full of evidence:

http://nonalignedmedia.com/2015/10/putins-long-shadow-of-corruption-conspiracy-and-murder/#comment-96388

 
At 3 January 2016 at 18:51 , Blogger Charles Edward Frith said...

C'mon, at some level Putin has to be in on the game much as Morth Korea is a stage prop with Swiss finishing school actors. Naturally there are tensions between any group.

 
At 3 January 2016 at 23:20 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The point isn't really about how bad Putin is, or how good he is, the point is why is Putin being demonised as the bad guy by so many people in the West when hardly anyone knows anything about the fascist Royal Families that the US supports in the Middle East. Go name some of these despotic kings? How often do people open up a newspaper and read about these kings and their crimes? No, but its always about Putin, or Assad.

Asada was said to have shot peaceful demonstrators but we now know that it was false flag set up by the US and the Saudis. Everyday we read about the brutal Assad, and the scheming Putin who is charge of a corrupt gangster run country. Can't you see we are being manipulated for war with Russia, and people who come to this site and regurgitate Western propaganda should know better.

 
At 4 January 2016 at 03:29 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Valid points merit repetition:


Michael K.2 January 2016 at 11:24:

"When you say that Jesus is in on it with the demonized plan for a totalitarian world state, where do you get the ability to say that with certainty and authority?

Anyone can tell that Jesus was against their evil plans. What they do with his memory and name is evil, that much is apparent. But whether He is evil, consider that he gave up His life to restore us to peace and harmony with Creator and Creation.

His message was a rejection of the ways of the world, those ways which you say drive the whole thing. I don't see how you can condemn Him too, and join the whole mob of Pharisees and others who hate Him.

Regarding Putin's appearance on the magazine cover, it brings to mind "Behold a Pale Horse", the title of William Cooper's book and a reference to the the Antichrist, the one who tries deceptively to take Christ's glory from before Man."


Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit; neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 7. 15-21

 
At 4 January 2016 at 07:23 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

16:12 04/01/2016

@ Michael K at 11:20

re: Regarding Putin's appearance on the magazine cover, it brings to mind "Behold a Pale Horse"...

Lugh had a pale horse too, before the Essenes got here. It was the horse of his grand-father. Mannanan Mac Lyr.
Actually, his horse was white, while a 'pale horse' is green.
Happy New Year!

 
At 4 January 2016 at 18:52 , Anonymous brabantian said...

Thank you very much, Michael K. (& Aangirfan) ... that article by Latino-Canadian writer Brandon Martinez, is just about the most devastating summary of charges against Vladimir Putin out there

That article gives evidence that V. Putin is not only Israel's very close bosom buddy tied to every major Israeli & Zionist interest ... & not only that Putin mouths the absurd US-Nato-Israeli hoax of 11 Sep 2001 ... but it puts Putin under charge that Putin himself built & secured his power, thanks to Operation-Gladio-type (also very current type!) false-flag massacres demonising Muslims ... and to a trail of bodies of dead Russians who had sought to give evidence

The implications are vast ... Much of the world, eager for an anti-US, anti-Nato 'hero' ... appears to have been deceived by yet another case of NWO fake 'opposition' in East Europe's Vladimir Putin ... play-acting his way in the greatest betrayal of our time

 
At 4 January 2016 at 23:34 , Anonymous No More Myths said...

Amen Ra

What greater conspiracies can there be besides Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

No More Myths. No More Lies. No More Lies Constructed Upon Myths.

THE SAYINGS OF JESUS

Of late years certain sayings of Jesus or Iu, as the name is abbreviated, written in Greek on the leaf of a papyrus-book, have been discovered in the rubbish-heaps of Oxyrhynchus. These were at once assumed to be the sayings of Jesus, an historic Jew. The present object is to prove that all such logia were the sayings of him who is here set forth as the Egypto-gnostic Jesus, who had many types and names but no individual form of historic personality.

The Book of the Dead, or Ritual of the resurrection, chiefly represents the mysteries of Amenta in the Osirian phase of the religious drama. But there is an older stratum than that of the Osirian eschatology. The sayer of the Kamite logia kuriaka is identifiable in at least three different Egyptian religions; in one as the Osirian Horus who predominates by name in the Ritual in another as Iu, the sa or son of Iusaas and Atum-Ra; and a third as Iu-em-hetep, the son of Ptah. Two of these titles of the typical Egyptian 'sayer' are cited in the 'festal dirge' when it is said, 'I have heard the words of Iu-em-hetep and Hartatef. It is said in their sayings,' some of which sayings are then quoted. These two answer to the Horus and Jesus of the Egypto-gnostics, which are two names of the same original character that was Egyptian from the root. The so-called 'Christian eschatology' may be said to have had its origin in the mysteries of Ptah at Memphis. So far as known, it was there the doctrine of immortality was first taught; there that the Son of God was figured in the act of issuing from the mortal mummy as a living spirit. It was likewise there the teacher of the religious mysteries was first impersonated as the sayer, Iu-em-hetep, who, as Iu the coming su, was the son of Ptah.

http://masseiana.org/aebk12.htm#890


 
At 4 January 2016 at 23:48 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But whether He is evil, consider that he gave up His life to restore us to peace and harmony with Creator and Creation."

Did he give up his life with the understanding that his people were in fact, fallible, and forever indebted to fallibility, because he saw in each of us our innate ability to sin without knowing that it was sin; but to be gentle and forgiving of that fact. In his act of absorbing and absolving his brethren of any further persecution from that sin, meaning man will inherently sin (because he is made flawed;Jesus "knew" this?)and Jesus shall give his life so that man can continue to sin (yet seek repentance) BUT, the Romans and Pharisee's cannot continue CREATING and PROFITING from those sins (that the Romans and Pharisees artificially created themselves using the same magick, the same magick we see today). Wasn't Jesus essentially creating a justification for his people because he knew they were going to continue to sin because they did not know any better? Doesn't this suggest possible knowledge of the fact that his people, and all people, were hybrids with limited perception, based on his knowledge of Davidic Occult indoctrination? I wish I knew how to use italics here because I could emphasis HIS PEOPLE because essentially, since this entire saga is lifted from one epoch of one Jewish struggle among millions of other Middle Eastern struggles happening at the same time needs to be clarified. For it to be completely overlooked that this man they called Jesus and Yaheshua, as a product of the ABRAHAMIC religions, is STILL WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE PURELY OLD TESTAMENT JEWISH RELIGION, WHICH JUST HAPPENS TO BE WORSHIPING A NEPHILIM (OR DEMON;LUCIFER;YHWH) CREATOR. And IF anything 'supernatural' happened it was an extension of his 'powers' as a descendant of the Nephilim. If I would care to venture about his ethnicity as a Jewish man, he would most likely regard the Goyim the same way a Jew would today, with an amount of disdain because they know we are not direct descendants of the Nephilim.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits"

Most definitely, since Jesus was and is part of the bigger deception, part of the END GAME, and the fact that his sacrifice has justified millions upon millions of 'believers' to use that ticket on a weekly basis, giving just that right amount of wiggle room between the weekends for many to 'do as thou will' most of the week. Regardless of how a Christian twists and distorts this fact with justifications like it has been misused through the church over the past two-thousand years is bollocks because it was part and parcel of the original design, SHOWS THE KINDS OF FRUIT THIS JESUS HAS MANIFESTED FOR THE WORLD. Just like what the Jewish religion AND the Muslim religion has wrought.

Could it be that even Jesus didn't understand that he was being deceived by the very forces of his own lineage? Does this explain his argument with his father in the garden of Gethsamane? Wasn't he purely just recognizing that his people, the Jews, were full of natural sin and were going to sin (partly based on his esoteric knowledge that his people being Jews were once the original, modified, limited human being created by the Nephilim, and partly based on the knowledge that the Romans and the Pharisees had a system SIMILAR to what the Nephilim had which was a way to conduct a society of slaves that the rich fed off of by creating turmoil with magick and propaganda)and were being persecuted and molded into miscreants and criminals by his own people and the Romans AND MAKING A PROFIT, which was not purely JEWISH OLD TESTAMENT WAYS (FULLY ACCORDING TO YHWH)?

AkhaldanSolo

 
At 5 January 2016 at 05:03 , Blogger Michael K. said...

You are welcome.

 
At 5 January 2016 at 05:45 , Blogger Michael K. said...

'Jesus gave his life so that man could continue to sin' is not how the authentic, historical Church has explained it. The victory over personal sin is supposed to come through great inner struggle and through the supernatural renewal of the individual's spirit through baptism. Nor is Salvation held to be a one time event, but something one "works out with fear and trembling" until the moment of death. It is a 'race run with endurance'.

The significance of Christ's work was that He made a way to life eternal where there was none. It is a 'steep and narrow way, and few there are who travel by it'. It is not a free pass to all people, or Jews, or whatever, to sin six days a week and repent on the seventh.

The Church teaches a final judgment where all sins will be revealed. It is a frightening thing to fall into the hands of the living God, and a true believer lives in the tension between that fear, and the hope of attaining holiness and God's grace unto eternal life in paradise, where there is no sin or sadness.

I am not telling anyone what to believe, but only wish to clarify what the historic teachings really are, as opposed to the heresy and wicked inventions of men.

 
At 5 January 2016 at 07:59 , Anonymous No More Myths said...

Jesus Christ of Nazareth never said, wrote or did anything because he was a fictitious character:

http://jesusneverexisted.com/

"We now proceed to show that Christ the anointed is none other than [p.218] the Osiris-karast, and that the karast mummy risen to its feet as Osiris-sahu was the prototypal Christ...
...
Say what you will or believe what you may, there is no other origin for Christ the anointed than for Horus the karast or anointed son of god the father. There is no other origin for a messiah as the anointed than for the masu or anointed. Finally, then, the mystery of the mummy is the mystery of the Christ. As Christian, it is allowed to be for ever inexplicable. As Osirian, the mystery can be explained. It is one of the mysteries of Amenta, with a more primitive origin in the rites of totemism."

http://masseiana.org/aebk4.htm

THE JESUS-LEGEND TRACED IN EGYPT FOR TEN THOUSAND YEARS

http://masseiana.org/aebk12.htm#890

 
At 5 January 2016 at 08:36 , Blogger Michael K. said...

http://coldcasechristianity.com/2014/is-there-any-evidence-for-jesus-outside-the-bible/

"Is there any evidence for Jesus outside the Bible? Yes, and the ancient non-Christian interpretations (and critical commentaries) of the Gospel accounts serve to strengthen the core claims of the New Testament.

Hostile Non-Biblical Pagan Accounts

There are a number of ancient classical accounts of Jesus from pagan, non-Christian sources. These accounts are generally hostile to Christianity; some ancient authors denied the miraculous nature of Jesus and the events surrounding His life...

Tacitus (56-120AD)

Cornelius Tacitus was known for his analysis and examination of historical documents and is among the most trusted of ancient historians. He was a senator under Emperor Vespasian and was also proconsul of Asia. In his “Annals’ of 116AD, he describes Emperor Nero’s response to the great fire in Rome and Nero’s claim that the Christians were to blame:

“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular."


Mara Bar-Serapion (70AD):

“What benefit did the Athenians obtain by putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as judgment for their crime. Or, the people of Samos for burning Pythagoras? In one moment their country was covered with sand. Or the Jews by murdering their wise king?…After that their kingdom was abolished. God rightly avenged these men…The wise king…Lived on in the teachings he enacted.”


Celsus (175AD):

“Jesus had come from a village in Judea, and was the son of a poor Jewess who gained her living by the work of her own hands. His mother had been turned out of doors by her husband, who was a carpenter by trade, on being convicted of adultery [with a soldier named Panthéra (i.32)]. Being thus driven away by her husband, and wandering about in disgrace, she gave birth to Jesus, a bastard. Jesus, on account of his poverty, was hired out to go to Egypt. While there he acquired certain (magical) powers which Egyptians pride themselves on possessing. He returned home highly elated at possessing these powers, and on the strength of them gave himself out to be a god.”

 
At 5 January 2016 at 10:42 , Anonymous No More Myths said...

Recommended reading for Michael K et al:

Pagan Christs: Studies In Comparative Hierology
by Robertson, J. M. (John Mackinnon), 1856-1933; Rationalist Press Association

Published 1911

https://archive.org/details/paganchristsstud00robe

 
At 6 January 2016 at 00:19 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To be quite honest, I was a bit shocked to have had started this controversy here on your forum Aangirfan. I'm still not quite sure what to make of these interactions. I do know that you provide and interesting forum and most often the answer does not come as easy as others but each time it can be used as a learning experience. Yet still, once again, quite honestly I still don't know what to think about this one. But, moving on, and more importantly, I thank you for this time of exploration. I didn't posit my opinions on here merely with some kind of cocky surety that what I am saying I am saying with guaranteed certainty, and in fact, have only recently come to some of these conclusions based on some recent material that seemed cognizant enough to make some relevant points as to how the el-ites are trying to usher in the NWO with what seems a very intricate deception, that can only span the amount of time it would take for some of the elements of society that we discuss here on your forum. ( http://redefininggod.com/ )

In my honest opinion this incremental monumental deception is the only thing that would make sense, meaning the end game deception that would fool the most people and create the requisite energy required to garner international consent for a worldwide governing body. It would only make sense that since Jesus and Yeheshua are from the Davidic Line of Jews that him by extension could only represent that very same small group of middle eastern sacrificial/ritual cult luciferians, unless I am direly confused about the lineage of 'good' Jews and 'bad' Jews from the 12 Tribes of Noah and Abraham. It surely does seem that those very 12 Tribes were tasked to create turmoil around the entire globe and dominate it in the name of their God.

cont'd...

 
At 6 January 2016 at 00:20 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

As we might have learned from WWII was that since half Hitler's cabinet was Jewish, backed by American, British and Other countries, Hitler's men were a portion or possibly a separate tribe of Jews that were tasked to fleecing another portion of Jews for everything they were worth, as a 2/3 sacrifice for the god of their blood-letting luciferian cult that has persisted throughout the centuries and their main deity is written into the Old Testament as a "God". If you have the eyes to see this is the very same template that will be used on America except the scale is ramped up ten fold for ritual effect, the bigger the ritual the bigger the result. A 2/3rds sacrifice of the world population, or even just America, is enough to satisfy the world that Israel must be allowed to become the center of the world.

"God" in the Old Testament and his legion of Demons, in Christian theology, were also the Gods of the pantheon of the Greeks and Romans, Egyptians, Babylonians, Phoenicians, Sumerians, Meso and Central American Indians and Aztec, Mayan, Norse, Vedic, Hindu, Asian... Who are the Nephilim. Who, may or may not be alive now, come from a star system in this galaxy or beyond, and may or may not be interdimensional. Their complete nature is not known and their cold-bloodedness is relevant but not entirely and their species origin is irrelevant at this point until more is known about them.

I am not ENTIRELY sure about any of all of this, absolutely anything that I know I know I can always be wrong. The entire story of Extra-terrestrial influence, regardless of the 'planted' material, logically, by nature, takes advantage over most of the science fiction that we are told of our origins. Much research gives the innate sense that much of it is true. William Cooper factor's into this in a way that is still relevant regardless of his controversial nature. Cooper was still part of a slow dissemination process regardless of his intentions. Whether or not the entire thing is a grand deception is still yet to be seen. What is relevant is that Bill Cooper is not the only one that has referenced Revelations in this entire saga and the fact that he was the EARLIEST indicator of this kind of MEME that has matriculated at this point in time makes his material even more relevant. His DENIAL of UFO's only lends credence to the fact that if there ever was an 'invasion' or 'visitation' or if the second coming is accompanied by UFO's they will most likely be reverse engineered craft with biotech slave piloting.

cont'd...

 
At 6 January 2016 at 00:20 , Anonymous Anonymous said...


I am only trying, as an exercise, to separate my consciousness from every bit of man made religion in order to rationally examine what it would be without all of it. I do not endorse Christianity, Satanism, Freemasonry, Cabalism, Judaism, Islam, Hindu, Luciferianism, Catholicism, Protestant, Mormon, Scientologist, Sufism, Tao, Dao, Buddhist. Every single one of them has back doors and traps that seem to create a human being with buttons that can be pushed to reveal the hypocrite. Tricked, Deceived. Done. I believe that only clarification about our TRUE origins are one of the only things that will help humanity move forward as one, but it is becoming abundantly obvious that his will not be the case because our base creator (not Prime) has also become our tormentor.

Granted, heresies were a capitol crime in a day when the Church had become the life and foundation of society, and messing with a person's belief system, their comfort zone, can have some very devastating effects on the psychology of an individual, let alone the breadth of an entire society. But this is part of the con that is unfolding, the general stripping away of ones every idol, even ones that you did not originally suspect were idols to begin with, because, being pure, we were molded and shaped in our every single move. Separating absolutely every societal condition from your mental being and dissecting them in minute detail is the only way. Of course it does not come without it's consequences.

Understanding Jesus, Yeheshua, or plainly put, the IDEA or CONCEPT of a savior, is a Caveat for those of us that have been able to pierce through the veil. The reality of things is most often more powerful than the fantasy, and by understanding the sage of wisdom that understands natural law and their place among the stars realizes that this amount of repression from an alleged creator is much too much for any biological entity to endure, because, in most cases, the 'magick' that is being used to abuse and control, is above and beyond the scope and intent of the Prime Creator.

I am here to learn along with you guys. I thank everyone here for their input and contributions.

AkhaldanSolo

 
At 6 January 2016 at 03:31 , Blogger Michael K. said...

Akhaldan Solo wrote:

'"God" in the Old Testament and his legion of Demons, in Christian theology, were also the Gods of the pantheon of the Greeks and Romans, Egyptians, Babylonians, Phoenicians, Sumerians, Meso and Central American Indians and Aztec, Mayan, Norse, Vedic, Hindu, Asian... Who are the Nephilim.'

It seems to be that you are 180° backwards in your understanding of Christian theology. Your statement here would be precisely accurate if you said that "Satan and his legion of demons are also the gods of the pantheons of the Greeks and Romans...etc." Instead you make Satan equivalent to God, which goes a long way toward explaining your apparent confusion about Jesus Christ.

Instead of reading nonsense about the Old Testament from theosophists and spiritualists, try reading the actual book. There you would find confirmation of what I am saying. You are using a term found in the OT, the "Nephilim", out of context, as though the book is somehow in favor of them when it is quite against them. The central theme of the OT is the conflict between the Creator God, who is implicitly good (unless you belive like the Manicheans and Gnostics that the Creation is inherently evil), and the rebellious fallen angel Satan and his demons who are the deceiving gods of the heathens.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying, and the proof is readily obtained by reading the OT with comprehension of the Christian theological dogma. These truths have stood the test of time and are not so easily overturned by popular literature which pretends to comprehend mysteries which are from before all ages.

Good Jews / Bad Jews is more nonsense too. The Good and Bad seed of the Bible is from the division of the human family into factors that are for or against the Creator God. The herdsman Seth (born after Abel to take his place on the Good side) and the agrarian planter, Cain (repping for Evil). Noah, Abraham, Jacob, David and Jesus come from the line of Seth according to OT genealogy. The first artificer in metal and builder of the first city and first pyramids in Ur come from the line of Cain, who was very likely the first slave master and worshipper of demons, apparently himself the secular historical figure Sargon the Magnificent.

Amalgamation of all the ancients as "Nephilim" is innacurate, as is the presumption that all worship was directed to the same deities since time immemorial. There have always been two strains of the seed of Adam, one that worships a good Creator who has been known by supernatural revelation as well as rational insight; and another that worships demons as gods and recieves worldly power and dominance from their kingdom as a result.

 
At 6 January 2016 at 09:50 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You seem pretty sure of that.

Not sure why you seem so confident that the god of the old testament isn't one of them.

Pretty easy to see the god of the old testament as an angry, jealous and narcissistic God that had quite a need to proclaim itself over others... Who was he competing with?

ASolo

 
At 6 January 2016 at 10:13 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to author Greg Hallett there are three Putins. And they're all in the same club. Medvedev is a Freemason.

 
At 6 January 2016 at 10:46 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm quite aware of the dichotomy between the Angels and Demons in the Bible, this '180degree' understanding of Christian Theology is just that, as an examination of Christian Theology. As an individual, I respect your attempt at trying to 'correct' my error in thinking of the Bible in this way, yet, as a member of society, you have to admit that there are many inconsistencies and errors in the Bible that have not been efficiently studied and understood right up until this very moment We are in no way going to solve this paradigm between the two of us and we could go on like this forever. The debate continues, but insofar as it happening here I am in doubt. I thank you for your contributions and... May

God Bless and God Speed...

ASolo

Thanks Kenny...
http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2012/10/no-more-myths.html

;-)

 
At 6 January 2016 at 11:20 , Blogger Michael K. said...

I have the greatest scholars of the Church to guide me. I have the works of some of the greatest thinkers of the past millennium and a half to give me that confidence. And I have reliable translations of the actual words of the prophets and teachers of ancient Israel, which remain for all time in the order in which they were given. So it is not from an abundance of conceit over my personal interpretation that I can say these things, but out of respect for the sheer magnitude of the scholarship which has already been done to help understand it.

Show me the angry, jealous and narcissistic god that you find in the Scriptures. Show me an example of this alleged character, where is he? I might see something other than you do, and I might have missed this when I read it. So teach me where this evil is found so that I know. Thanks.

 
At 6 January 2016 at 11:51 , Blogger Michael K. said...

Okay, I agree to disagree. That is the ethical way for us to differ. I support your examining Christianity in any light as long as you are interested in finding the truth.

 
At 6 January 2016 at 12:16 , Anonymous No More Myths said...

Michael K.: I have the greatest scholars of the Church to guide me.

No More Myths:

Non-existence of Jesus?

A History of 'Jesus Denial'

The End is Nigh (for the godman!)

http://jesusneverexisted.com/scholars.html

 
At 6 January 2016 at 12:48 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those scholar's haven't proven anything definitively for the rest of the world or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

ASolo

 
At 7 January 2016 at 10:09 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Putin is Ok. He is in very difficult situation.
He is blackmailed by Western-Russian oligarchs & zapadniki,
they tried to kill him at least 6 times.
He had to play their game " 911", etc

 
At 7 January 2016 at 10:21 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/01/06/cologne-muslim-assaults-now-cited-as-false-flag/

 
At 9 January 2016 at 01:06 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=12698

“When Cosmic Convergence Intersects
Mayan Calendrics and the Kali Yuga”

Bulgarian Psychic Vanga Predicts Nothing Will Be left But The Glory Of Vladimir, No Word If This Was Lenin Or Putin, Russia To Be The World’s Only Superpower

http://www.pravdareport.com/science/mysteries/03-02-2006/75360-vanga-0/

Secret History Revealed —Vladimir Putin’s Russia: Perfect Foil To The Anglo-American Axis And Their New World ‘Order’-Why They Hate Him

http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=8305

 

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