Friday, 1 February 2019

JESUS - THE FOUR GOSPELS



In The Four Gospels, Emile Victor Rieu refers to the Gospel writers.

According to Rieu:

St Mark's Gospel is thought to have been written about A.D. 65 and was probably the earliest of the four Gospels.

Mark makes no mention of the Nativity story.

John makes no mention of the Nativity story.

Some people wonder how many of the Gospel stories were 'invented by zealous teachers' to teach 'some locally needed lesson.'  

Matthew's Gospel was written about A.D. 85 for the use of the 'Jewish-Christian' community in his area.

Luke's Gospel was written about A.D. 85 for the Greek world.

John's Gospel was written about A.D. 100.

The Gospel writers, who all were apparently Jewish in origin, insisted on the Jewish origins of Christianity.

Thomas Sheehan, Loyola philosophy professor and author of The First Coming: How the Kingdom of God Became Christianity, maintains that "Jesus did not think he was divine," nor did he "assert any of the messianic claims that the New Testament attributes to him."

Jesus' Followers 



"He was meek, and merciful.

"He was criticized for associating with sinners. 

"He celebrated a last supper. 

"He forgave his enemies."

That was Krishna, born in 3228 BC in India.



Jesus was a Jewish Communist?

Communists do not generally believe in the Divine.



However, Jesus appears to be a bit Socialist.

According to Acts 2: 44, 45:

"All that believed had all things in common.

"And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need."

Acts 4:34

"For as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them ... and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need."

Matthew 6:24.

Jesus said: "You cannot serve both God and Money."


Jesus is an important figure in the Koran.

Luke 18:18–25

Jesus said: 'Sell all that you possess and distribute it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven.'

Galatians 3:28

In Christianity, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."



Which is more important - the person of Jesus or the ideas of Jesus?

The History of Jesus is disputed.

The ideas of Jesus may not all be unique to Jesus.

According to the Akkadian Councils of Wisdom (Babylonian civilization that existed two millennia before Jesus was born):

"Do not return evil to your adversary.

"Requite with kindness the one who does evil to you, Maintain justice for your enemy, Be friendly to your enemy."

Jesus was not the first to teach 'Love Your Enemy'.

According to Buddhist wisdom (written centuries before Jesus was born)

"Shame on him who strikes, greater shame on him who strikes back. 

"Let us live happily, not hating those who hate us. Let us therefore overcome anger by kindness, evil by good, falsehood by truth. Do not hurt others in ways that would be hurtful to yourself."

...

According to Taoist wisdom (written centuries before Jesus was born):

"Return love for hatred.

"Regard your neighbor's gain as your own and your neighbor╩╝s loss as your own loss. 

"Whoever is self-centered cannot have the love of others."

Jesus was not the first to teach 'Love Your Enemy' / 'love your enemy'

According to the Koran (Qur'an 41.34-35):

"The good deed and the evil deed are not alike.

"Repel the evil deed with one which is better, then lo!, he between whom and you there was enmity shall become as though he were a bosom friend."

...

The 'official' History of Jesus is suspect?

Among the 10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus are:



Zoroaster/Zarathustra

"Zoroaster was born of a virgin and 'immaculate conception by a ray of divine reason.'

"He was baptized in a river.

"In his youth he astounded wise men with his wisdom.

"He was tempted in the wilderness by the devil.

"He began his ministry at age 30.

"Zoroaster baptized with water, fire and 'holy wind.'

"He cast out demons and restored the sight to a blind man. 

"He taught about heaven and hell, and revealed mysteries, including resurrection, judgment, salvation and the apocalypse.

"He had a sacred cup or grail.

"He was slain.

"His religion had a eucharist.

"He was the 'Word made flesh.'

Zoroaster’s followers expected a 'second coming' in the virgin-born Saoshynt or Savior, who is to come in 2341 AD and begin his ministry at age 30, ushering in a golden age.



Attis of Phrygia

Attis was born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana.

He was considered the savior who was slain for the salvation of mankind.

His body as bread was eaten by his worshippers.

He was both the Divine Son and the Father.

On 'Black Friday,' he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth.

He descended into the underworld.

After three days, Attis was resurrected.


How odd of God to choose the Jews.

JESUS AND JUNG


Carl Jung and family

According to Carl Jung: "We all must do what Christ did. We must make our experiment.

"We must make mistakes. We must live out our own version of life.

"And there will be error. If you avoid error you do not live."


The Psychotherapist & Self Acceptance.

According to the Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung, there is a 'dark side' to all our personalities.

Think of anger, greed, fear and lust.

This 'dark side', or 'shadow', is usually hidden within our 'subconscious'.

The 'dark side' or 'shadow' should not be seen as necessarily always 'evil'.

For example, there would be no marriages or children without there being a little 'lust'.

It is extreme or out-of-control lust that is evil.

If we get angry about injustice, that is no bad thing, so long as we remain rational and do not go berserk.

Essential Secrets of Psychotherapy: What is the "Shadow" by Stephen A. Diamond, Ph.D.



Jesus appears to have had his 'shadow'.

Jesus faced temptations in the desert.

He cursed the fig tree.

The Psychology of Jesus — Chapter 3 — David McKenna



Our rulers want us to be excessively angry, greedy, frightened and lustful so as to control us.

However, there is also a 'good side' to all of us.



Fr. John A. Sanford, in his 1970 book The Kingdom Within, sees Jesus's instruction "love your enemies" as an attempt to help us deal with all the parts of the whole, the 'dark side' and the 'good side', without hurting anyone.

Professor Wallace Clift has looked at Jung's view of humanity as "a story of developing consciousness".

Clift sees this as being similar to Jesus's idea of the 'Holy Spirit' working to improve us.

Jung called the 'dark side' the 'Shadow' and he reckoned that it comes from our animal ancestors.

Jung wrote: ‘"The shadow is that hidden, repressed, for the most part inferior and guilt-laden personality whose ultimate ramifications reach back into the realm of our animal ancestors and so comprise the whole historical aspect of the unconscious."



When the 'dark side' emerges, for example in a War I or in a divorce, many people look for scapegoats.

We demonise our enemy.

There is a tendency to blame everything that goes wrong on Moslems or Jews or Blacks or Gays or Gypsies.

Most people deny their 'shadow', unconsciously 'projecting' it onto others so as to avoid confronting it in oneself.

Essential Secrets of Psychotherapy: What is the "Shadow" by Stephen A. Diamond, Ph.D.



Each of us should accept that we have a 'dark side' or 'shadow'.

The shadow is most dangerous when it is repressed and projected onto others.

When we will not acknowledge our dark side, we are at risk of becoming mentally ill and starting a war.

The 'saint' should acknowledge his or her 'dark side'.

Jekyll was saintly, but he hid and did not acknowledge his other side, Hyde, who was evil.

Jekyll's personality was split rather than whole.

Essential Secrets of Psychotherapy: What is the "Shadow" by Stephen A. Diamond, Ph.D.



When the CIA and its friends use their Monarch mind-control programme to brainwash children, they create in the children more than one personality.

One personality may the 'normal' personality and another may be the 'assassin' or sex slave'.



As mentioned above, the 'shadow' or 'dark side' contains positive some qualities.

Fear can be useful, if it keeps us safe.

Jung believed that most of us have lost touch with certain parts of our selves.

Jung believed that we should not try to be 'normal' because that means suppressing our real self, including the 'shadow'.

The healing of the disturbed person comes when they stop trying to be 'normal' and conformist.

We need to accept our 'shadow' and see that it involves some normal instincts and creative impulses.

Encyclopedia of Psychology and Religion (Springer Verlag, 2009) / Anger, Madness, and the Daimonic: The Psychological Genesis of Violence, Evil, and Creativity (SUNY Press, 1996) / Meeting the Shadow: The Hidden Power of the Dark Side of Human Nature (Tarcher/Putnam, 1991) - all by Stephen A. Diamond,



To be a good Christian you have to be fully aware of the 'shadow'.

Jesus asked us to consider our own faults, before we look at the faults of others.

Jesus had dinner with tax collectors and sinners.

Jesus had his difficult moments.

"And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave the house or town. Truly, I say to you, it shall be more tolerable on the day of judgement for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town...

"But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!...woe to you, blind guides...You blind fools!...You blind men!...You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?"



Jesus was not necessarily kind to pigs or Greeks.

"The moment the evil spirits were cast into the pigs, they rushed headlong from the steep bank onto the lake and were drowned."

"The woman was a Greek ... she begged Jesus to drive the demons out of her daughter. 'First let the children eat all they want,' he told her, 'for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs.'"

Rejection of Pascal's Wager: The Personality of Jesus

Jesus did not claim to be perfect.

Jesus said: "Why do you call me good? No one is good - except God alone."

Carl Jung said: "On the cross his mission deserted him.

"But because he had lived so fully and devotedly he won through to the Resurrection body...

"It seems to me to be the Holy Spirit’s task and charge to reconcile and reunite the opposites in the human individual through a special development of the human soul."

THE REAL JESUS?


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The early Christians had various theories about Jesus.

Jesus did not become 'officially' divine until 325 AD.

This was when the Council of Nicaea, set up by the Roman emperor Constantine, decided that Jesus, like many Roman Emperors, was divine.



Most scholars agree that Jesus did actually exist.

"Amy-Jill Levine states that ... 'there is a consensus of sorts on the basic outline of Jesus' life' in that most scholars agree that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, debated Jewish authorities on the subject of God, performed some healings, gathered followers...."[68]

Christ myth theory - Wikipedia



In The Historical Jesus; Five Views, Robert Price suggests that the story of Jesus in the Gospels contains borrowings from pagan mythology.

In the same book, Professor Luke Timothy Johnson lists all the things historians can know with 'a very high degree of probability' about Jesus - Jesus taught in parables, Jesus healed people, Jesus taught about God's Kingdom.

The Recliner Commentaries: Five views of the historical Jesus



Osiris's resurrection is celebrated on the third day

Does the story of Jesus show strong parallels to myths of dying and rising gods?

Apparently not.

"Early in the 20th century, Gerald Massey argued that there are similarities between the Egyptian dying-and-rising god myths and Jesus.[22]

"Massey stated that the biblical references to Herod the Great were based on the myth of 'Herrut' the evil hydra serpent."

However, the existence of Herod the Great "can be well established without reliance on Christian sources."[23]

In other words, Herod was not Herrut.



"The overall scholarly consensus is that while the examples provided often involve death of the deity, they do not generally involve resurrection of the same deity.[2]

"Eddy and Boyd state that upon careful analysis, it turns out that there is often either no death, no resurrection or no god in the examples used to construct each of the examples in the category.[17]

"Jonathan Z. Smith, a scholar of comparative religions, writes the category is 'largely a misnomer based on imaginative reconstructions and exceedingly late or highly ambiguous texts.'[1][37]


Mithraism
Is Christianity similar to the Roman religion Mithraism?

Early Christian authors "took an extremely negative view of Mithraism" and saw their practices "as evil copies of Christian practices."[209]

Stanley porter notes that "Mithraism only reached Asia minor in the latter part of the first century, after the basic elements of the gospels were in place, and hence could not have influenced the essential elements of the gospels."[211]


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David Strauss (1808–1874), a German theologian, believed that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and that the encounter had influenced the views of Jesus.

However, Strauss believed that "the additional elements of the sky opening, the dove descending on Jesus as the Holy Spirit, etc. were subsequent miraculous embellishments by the authors of the gospels intended to emphasize the importance of a key event in the life of Jesus."[220] [225]

Strauss believed that the divine spirit was embedded in all of humanity.



In 1890, Sir James George Frazer published the first edition of The Golden Bough which showed "the shared elements of religious belief."

Frazer himself believed that Jesus existed.[235]

William Benjamin Smith (1850–1934) argued for a symbolic interpretation of the stories about Jesus.

Smith argues that in the parable of the Jesus and the rich young man there never was a young man, and the young man symbolizes the nation of Israel.[254]

Dying and rising gods



What evidence is there that Jesus was (A) an opponent of the Establishment, or (B) a tool of the establisment?

1. Jesus shared meals with outcasts, which annoyed the Pharisees, strong supporters of the laws and traditions of the Jewish people.

Jesus said: "Be on your guard against the Doctors of the Law, who like to walk about in robes and be saluted in the streets... who devour the livelihood of widows..."

2. Jesus talked of 'good people' being his 'brothers' and 'sisters'.

3. Jesus urged people to 'renounce self'.

Jesus said: "If anyone wishes to be the first, he must be the last of all and the servant of all."

Jesus said: "Why do you call me good? No one but God is good."

4. Jesus said: "How difficult it is for men of wealth to enter the Kingdom of God."



What about Quantum Physics, Jesus and Intuition?

"Free will allows us to choose to continue to influence reality with our memories (Ego)

Or we can choose to accept our identity as projections of the Father and consciously co-create with the Father...

"Quantum physics has proven that the belief of the observer is translated in the test tube.

"Each energy packet can become particle or remain as energy depending on the expectation of the observer.

"This is known as the observer effect.

"Positive Thinking is Merely Scratching the Surface of Truth: We must be attentive to intuition

"As the Quantum physicist has discovered, our beliefs come true. 

"This is the key to the kingdom which we forgot shortly after birth.


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"Our parents probably forgot that we are connected, just as they are connected to the One.

"In this same way, Herod of Judea forgot that he and Jesus were both born of the Creator/Father/One.


"Herod attempted to kill Jesus by ordering all the newborn children of Bethlehem to be slain.

"But, since Joseph was attentive to his intuition, (for intuitive training go to Andrea Hess...) he was warned by the One/Creator/Father to flee to Egypt.

"Jesus was safe during His childhood. They only returned to Israel after they were told of the death of Herod.



"When Jesus was grown, he fasted for 40 days and 40 nights before beginning His ministry... a month of fasting will cause an altered state of reality.

"When Jesus was tempted by His Ego to turn the stones into bread, He reminded the tempter that 'man does not live by bread alone.' Thus He determined to finish his vision quest...

"Jesus told the Ego to get behind Him because it is only the One/Source/Creator who would be served.



"To accept our identity as co-Creators with the One, we must put our finite Egos behind us.

"Our Subconscious mind is connected to our Higher Mind and to the Creator/One/Source.

"The Ego is only connected to our conscious minds and helps keep us involved in this physical world.

"But, at the same time, we must learn to influence our Subconscious Minds in order to create our reality..."

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Aangirfan: JESUS, CAESAR'S MESSIAH, REAL CHRISTIANITY

aanirfan.blogspot.com/2016/07/jesus-caesars-messiah-real-christianity.html

1 Aug 2016 - The biblical scholar Joseph Atwill claims that the story of Jesus Christ is a HOAX designed to control the people. Joseph Atwill's Blog | Discussing "Caesar's Messiah". Atwill says that theJesus story was designed by the Roman empire to justify slavery and to pacify the citizens. Atwill writes: "Christianity was ...

aangirfan: Jesus and humility

aangirfan.blogspot.com/2007/02/jesus-and-humility.html

Jesus and humility. The following is fiction: James: How was your trip to India to meet the great guru? Peter: I enjoyed India. But I've come to the conclusion that the only good guru is a humble guru. The guru I met in India was sitting on a throne and claiming to understand everything about the universe. He did not look in ...

aangirfan: CROSSAN ON JESUS

aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/11/crossan-on-jesus.html
Who was Jesus? John Dominic Crossan, professor emeritus at De Paul University Chicago, is an Irish-American religious scholar. (John Dominic Crossan Web Site) Crossan "believes that less than 20 percent of what we read in the Gospels are original sayings of Jesus." (http://www.y-jesus.com/bornid_4.php) Crossan ...

Aangirfan: THE REAL JESUS

aanirfan.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-real-jesus.html

14 Apr 2015 - The Talpiot tomb, in the Talpiot area of Jerusalem, is said to contain the bones of 'Jesus, his wife Mary and his son Judah'. The tomb, which dates back to 'the time of Jesus', was discovered in 1980. One bone from the tomb bears the inscription, 'Jesus, son of Joseph'. Other bones from the tomb include the ...

Aangirfan: JESUS - MYTH AND REALITY

aanirfan.blogspot.com/2016/08/jesus-myth-and-reality.html

1 Sep 2016 - However, the letters of Paul, only some of which were written by Paul, see Jesus as being in some way divine. The letters of Paul do not refer to Jesus's criticism of the rich and praise of the poor. Paul was a conservative Jew. The letters of Paul "are written to propagate the cult of a god crucified for the ...

8 comments:

  1. What normal person would curse a tree?

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  2. thank you so much , its good to know ones instinct , resonates with the above , which lead me to think our brain is not allowed information from past lives however maybe the soul communicates through intuition
    thank you for listening and creating a great article God Bless

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  3. At the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, the Vatican 'fathers' deleted around 47 gospels that didn't agree wit the Brave New world they were trying to create. Including--YES--the Gospel of Judas. The Gospels that didn't fit their creation of a a different form of Christianity were destroyed and that's what's got to us to now.

    ACTUAL History can be so messy, so let's destroy out for the Vatican's benefit.

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    1. The Vatican is head of the catholic church and can be greedy, corrupt and everything wrong, but remember, it is still the head of the church.

      In this world we have to deal with people, also at tje Vatican. The problem with people is tat they can be corrupted. In the history of the church we have had several times a totally corrupted Vatican - like we have today. But it was always amended by the good men who are still today in the church. Let's pray this will happen soon. The catholic church is the church of Jesus and He promised that she will never be ruined.

      For everyone interested in what the world was when the church and the Vatican were truly christian, read ' History of the Protestant Reformation in England and Ireland' by William Cobbett. It is online .

      All the problems we have today; central banks, national debts, interest rates, a world destroying industrialization and a very greedy and powerful elite, stems from the Reformation.

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    2. In addition to my former reply.

      http://www.angelfire.com/ca7/loquebar/alta_vendita.htm

      So sorry for the typos!

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  4. The more I dwell on Jung, the more I realize his archetypal approach while sympathetic and indeed comprising Jesus, relativizes him as being one of many Messianic-like figures, essentially emptying Christianity of its divine and historical singularity.

    https://fullspectrumdominoes.wordpress.com/2015/02/05/believe-me-when-i-say/


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  5. 'Which is more important - the person of Jesus or the ideas of Jesus?' Perspective? Claim to know-God'rs -- with more evangelical of readings -- could challenge some of this. With interpretations and history, following along the liberal/evangelical divisions, come spectrum. This said -- nothing should discourage us from reaching out to God, and 'where we're at'. Proclaims is reaching towards, us: One to one. Yet, 'ideas vs. person'? The Gospels' declare 'the person' proceeding, ideas and theory. The big-ish... engaging with this present one. Essential understanding: The creator's character. Is God this good, willing, and able? So the suggestion: 'The History of Jesus is disputed. The ideas of Jesus may not all be unique to Jesus.' Yup. But again, some of the Pagan pre-Christ revealed stuff is more... dispute-ville. OK, could go on, and on, and... Leave with a response to comment re; '...curse a tree?' Did this: truthscoop.net/Aggression-on-Trees-and-Blogs -- my taker-rooney. As usual, must come back to this post later and consider on. Near-on all blogs wouldn't have the boldness the keep digging, manage to remain open as... and yet, provoke, with limited prejudice. Troublesome for certain zealots pro and con. Respect these presentations and reckon rare online outreach/good-news.

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  6. Have you ever looked at the talmud, the sacred book of the jews. In it, Jesus and His mother are excoriated in a most vile manner. Rather revealing actually, in that no other book dares to say such wicked filth. It does prove Jesus existed. Why would "scholars" devote pages of their holy book to a myth? Because He pissed them off so bad they memorialized Him forever.

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