Monday, 25 January 2016

GOD'S GAY WORLD


A gay couple, who are penguins, have adopted an abandoned chick.

The human staff at the Wingham Wildlife Park in the UK say that the gay couple, Jumbs and Kermit, are the two 'best penguin parents' they have had

Wingham Wildlife Park / Gay penguins are 'the best parents' / Kent gay penguins are 'the best parents in the zoo'




The animal and human kingdoms are bisexual.

Gay wild Australian black swans sometimes form threesomes with two males and a female.


Jonny Saelua (right) androphilic male from Samoa.

Why does God, or nature, create gay people?

Alice Dreger at Pacific Standard asks Why has homosexuality survived evolution?

Alice Dreger writes:

1.  "Androphilic males - that is, males who are sexually oriented toward other males - show up in cultures around the world." 


God is not a fundamentalist.

2. In many cultures certain types of Androphile males are reputed to be particularly kind towards members of their family.

3. "In Samoa, for example, there is now substantial evidence for above-average kin-directed altruism among the culture’s androphilic males, a group known as the fa'afafine."

Harvard University sociobiologist E.O. Wilson has suggested that:

A man's 'Gay genes' are passed on via the 'straight' family members that he helps - family members who share many of his genes.

Another reality TV gay

4. In Samoa, a young boy who shows an interest in female-type activities like cooking will spend a lot of time attending to the family needs.

"It is common to hear people say that families that include fa'afafine are particularly fortunate..."

"The men who have sex with fa'afafine typically prefer ordinary female sexual partners, but when they have sex with fa'afafine, it isn't seen by the culture as homosexual."

animal population

5. A team of researchers, writing in the journal Human Nature, suggest that what they have found in Samoa may be the way things have been throughout much of human History.

6.  The Aché, hunter-gatherer people from Paraguay, have a type of androphilic male who "generally stay with the women's and children's group during the day.... They also sometimes care for sick and injured individuals..."

7. "Perhaps what these (gay) boys need is fewer doctors, and more grateful families."
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We should not forget that God (or nature) creates lots of different kinds of gay people. 

Picasso had a sexual relationship with the gay French poet Max Jacob

In three large population surveys (USA's AddHealth and GSS, UK's NCDS), Satoshi Kanazawa found a small positive correlation between higher IQ and self-reported homosexual behaviour or identity. 


We should not assume that all gay people are child abusers, or that all Italians are in the Mafia, or that all Jews are in the Kosher Nostra, or that all Africans are of low intelligence.

Africa has produced some of the most intelligent people on the planet. (List of African-American inventors and scientists)

Salma Hayek and Ashley Judd. According to an article entitled:Bigots are buggers : "Research by US psychologists suggests that 80% of men who are homophobic have secret homosexual feelings. The research results were published in the prestigious Journal of Abnormal Psychology, with the backing of the American Psychological Association."

People who are sexually attracted to children often make the best teachers and girl-guide leaders and often look after the waifs and strays that families have abandoned.

Jewish people are often involved in making useful scientific discoveries. (List of Jewish contributions to the world)

Famous Jews who have made life more interesting include: Jesus Christ, Benjamin Franklin, Felix Mendelssohn, Camille Pissarro, the Marx Brothers, Carl Sagan and Baruch Spinoza.
We should not be like the Nazis and see everything in black and white.

The world needs gay people, black people, Jewish people and even people who find children sexually attractive (so long as they are not child abusers).


Research by the advertising agencies has found that images of boys have a far wider appeal, for both men and women, than images of girls or women or men.

In the New Scientist, 27 October 2007 (Population is the key), Andrew Ferguson pointed out that: 

1. World population is likely to be 10 billion by 2070. 

2. Even if we adopt a simpler lifesyle, as for example in Cuba, the planet will not be able to cope. 

3. For everyone to enjoy western European lifestyles, the world population needs to be about 2 billion. 

To help save the planet, we need to demolish the last great taboo. 

We need to stop forcing people to go in for relationships that lead to the production of babies. 

We need more people to be gay.



In Africa, Asia, the Americas and Europe, before the missionaries arrived, homosexuality was widespread.


The purpose of homosexuality, in evolution, may be to keep down the size of the population.

Francois Boucher 

Joan Roughgarden is a professor of biology at Stanford University. 

According to Roughgarden, gayness is something you necessarily find in advanced societies. 

(Jonah Lehrer writing at Seed: The Gay Animal Kingdom)

Roughgarden argues that homosexuality is a defining feature of advanced animal communities, which require communal bonds in order to function. 

"The more complex and sophisticated a social system is," she writes, "the more likely it is to have homosexuality intermixed with heterosexuality." 

Gay Moslem Art 

Professor David P. Barash has written "The evolutionary mystery of homosexuality".

He writes of the paradox: that if homosexuality is a product of evolution, then "genetic factors associated with same-sex preference must enjoy some sort of reproductive advantage...

"Anything that diminishes, even slightly, the reproductive performance of any gene should (in evolutionary terms) be vigorously selected against...

"The consensus among scientists is that same-sex preference is rooted in our biology.

"Some of the evidence comes from the widespread distribution of homosexuality among animals in the wild...

Gustave Courbet 

David Barash suggests some possibilities.

1. "Insofar as homosexuals have been freed from investing time and energy in their own reproduction, perhaps they are able to help their relatives rear offspring."

This could be "to the ultimate evolutionary benefit of any homosexuality-promoting genes present in those children...

"Some recent research has focused on male homosexuals among a more traditional population on Samoa.

"Known as fa'afafine, these men do not reproduce, are fully accepted into Samoan society in general and into their kin-based families in particular, and lavish attention upon their nieces and nephews - with whom they share, on average, 25 percent of their genes.

Fa'afafine
Fa'afafine. By jeantine

2. "There is some anthropological evidence that in pre-industrial societies homosexual men are more than randomly likely to become priests or shamans."

"Perhaps the additional social prestige conveyed to their heterosexual relatives might give a reproductive boost to those relatives, and thereby to any shared genes carrying a predisposition toward homosexuality."

3. "Groups containing homosexuals might have done better than groups composed entirely of straights.

"It has recently been argued, most cogently by the anthropologist Sarah B. Hrdy, that for much of human evolutionary history, child-rearing was not the province of parents (especially mothers) alone.

Relatives helped bring up children.

"If sufficient numbers of those assistants had been gay, their groups may have benefited disproportionately.

"Alternatively, if some human ancestors with a same-sex preference reproduced less (or even not at all), that, in itself, could have freed up resources for their straight relatives...

"Homosexuality might correlate with greater sociality and social cooperation; similarly, it might deter violent competition for females."

For the Buddhists, all visual attraction is the reaction of the lower self. Fleshly charm does not last and is in a sense unreal. In other words, you don't need a girl/boyfriend; and the girl/boyfriend's sexiness is a bit of an illusion. However, according to the Buddhists, avoiding sex, while continuing to think foul thoughts, is not good. Better to obtain physical outlet, while thinking wholesome thoughts. (aangirfan: THOMAS MANN

4. "One study has found that female relatives of gay men have more children than do those of straight men.

Continued here: The evolutionary mystery of homosexuality

David P. Barash, an evolutionary biologist, is a professor of psychology at the University of Washington. His most recent book is Homo Mysterious: Evolutionary Puzzles of Human Nature (Oxford University Press, 2012).


In the 1950s Nabokov wrote Lolita. Nabokov liked girls, so long as they looked like boys. Lolita was the girl with the ‘puerile hips’, the girl wearing ‘shorts’. Nabokov and Pale Fire and deception 

Alexander the Great

Beethoven

Casanova

Charles Dickens 1812-1870

ELVIS

JAMES BOND; IAN FLEMING

Paul Gauguin

Ernest Hemingway

Alexander Ivanov

Julius III - 'Pedophile Pope'

Rudyard Kipling

C S Lewis

Albert Goldman’s 'The Lives Of John Lennon' (1988) claimed that John Lennon had a gay affair with The Beatles' manager, Brian Epstein, during a four-day holiday in Barcelona in April 1963. (Cached) It also refers to a number of relationships which Lennon reportedly had with other men.Goldman claims that Lennon visited underage boy prostitutes in Thailand.

Anonymous said...

Great article as always, Aangirfan. 

Just one point of dissension: Jesus was NOT a jew, he was a JUDEAN - the native of a certain geographic location.

Dumb white people put the homophobic fundamentalists into power in Iran

Anonymous writes:

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS ARTICLE AAANG!

I am the gay oldest of four sibs.

Ive never been able to enjoy the happiness and security of marriage.

My three sisters have been helped by me in their childrearing for 20 yrs.

I must say all the love and joy I've recieved from the co-parenting has very much enriched my life, and I say with pride, the lives of my nephews and nieces.

They all love and respect me.

You know why? Because as a nonperverted, decent, moral gay person, I earned thier love and support.

Their will alwys be hateful people who try to morph the pedophiles and abusers with the moral, nonperverted gay, but the statistics on hetero males abusing daughters, sisters, and what not is staggering.

Not to in any way demean the pain and anguish the abused have suffered at the hands of the evil abusers who are gay, but satanic torture is about gaining demonic payback, not sexual pleasure.

The issues are far more complex than the average person knows. 


You may have noticed that certain people are in need of a good education.

These are usually white people.

"White schoolchildren in Britain's poorest communities lag behind peers who are black or of Pakistani or Bangladeshi origin."

This is according to a Financial Times analysis of more than 3m sets of exam results.

"Poor white children even achieve worse average results than deprived pupils for whom English is a second language."

 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/760d03d4-6f71-11e0-952c-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz2DOuovgde

It is generally these 'poor whites' who write the 'ignorant' comments on blogs.

 
Lynching of an innocent black kid in the USA. Outside a courthouse in Omaha, Will Brown, after being killed, mutilated and burned. Brown was innocent of the crime of which he had been accused. Cached

In the UK, "Poor white children have fallen behind by the time they reach the age of seven... 

"In Hull, the worst-performing local authority area, a child eligible for free school meals, a widely used indicator of poverty, has a more than two-thirds chance of finishing in the bottom fifth of national exam results at the age of 16." 


Matthew Shepard.

Matthew Shepard was an American student who was tortured and murdered near Laramie, Wyoming in 1998. 

Shepard was targeted because he was gay.[1].

In 2013, The Book of Matt: Hidden Truths About the Murder of Matthew Shepard, by Stephen Jimenez, asserts that Shepard was a "major" methamphetamine dealer, and that Shepard and at least one of his killers (McKinney) had been occasional sexual partners.[63][64]

Jimenez's sources are suspect.

"Jimenez never qualifies how credible the sources are, or validates their closeness to Shepard, or evaluates the potential motivations for their accounts."[62] 

Police officials interviewed after the book's publication disputed claims made in the book. 

Rob Debree, lead sheriff's investigator at the time, said the book contains "factual errors and lies", and said Jimenez's claim that Shepard was a drug dealer is "truly laughable".[59]

A gay teenager was reportedly murdered by his uncle and father in Turkey because of his sexuality, according to Hurriyet Daily News.


Larry - killed for being gay. Boy's Killing, Labeled a Hate Crime.

Dumb whites tend to see things in simple black and white terms.

A study by Edinburgh University researchers found that childhood intelligence is linked to voting preferences and political involvement in adulthood.

British National Party voters, some of whom are fans of Hitler, had the lowest average intelligence - scoring just 98.4.

BNP voters have lowest IQ

The USA also has its poorly educated, fundamentalist whites.

People who give in to racism, and prejudice against people like gays, may simply be poorly educated.

Read the article.

"The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults." 

The research was led by Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. 

"Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward racist and prejudiced political beliefs, the study found. 

Earlier studies have found links between low levels of education and higher levels of prejudice.

 
Website for this imageTHE REAL HITLER

Low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. 

"There is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world."

According to Hodson: "Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," something which appeals to people with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."

In a study in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. 

They found that people who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays. 

(5 Myths About Gay People Debunked)



Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia, says: "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology..."

"There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners," Hodson says.

"Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive."

21 comments:

  1. I have deleted the comments from the gay homophobes.

    LOL.

    - Aangirfan

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    1. Homophobia is designed to control people. Extremist gay behaviour and extremist homophobia are both promoted by the Nazi-Zionist-Mafia-Feudal elite.

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  2. I appreciate your blog and the stories you uncover and publish which many in the (mindless) establishment media do not have the courage to publish. Keep up the good work.

    Homosexuality is one of those subjects that gets all the "positive" press as establishment media and others are all too eager to promote. In the USA the Press has attempted to cover up crimes committed by homosexuals, ignore or spin/twist such stories of the crimes committed against homosexuals (e.g. Mathew Shepherd's murder) to reflect positively on the pan-homosexual movement and negatively on its opponents. They have in the past widely promoted supposed scientifc studies that prove the "gay gene" only later found to be fraudulent. This is shameful and nothing but agenda driven propaganda as bad as any other movement that uses such devices.

    Those of us who disagree with same- sex actions on moral grounds or are all dismissed as "Haters" or "Nazis" (though as you well know... many Nazis were and still are homosexuals, bisexuals, pederasts, or pedophiles themselves) to silence us (so much for free speech and thoughtful/honest debate). Now the strategy appears to be to dismiss us all as latent homosexuals or self haters (Zionists use the same tactics against Jews who oppose Zionism on moral or religious grounds). We live in very sad times.

    I never look to the animal world to justify human behavior as I see humans as much more than animals. The "imago dei" is self evident in all humans, and is absent in other species. It is this gift that separates us from the animal world.

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    1. You sound like Ted Haggard.

      The anti-gay agenda is a Nazi-Zionist agenda.

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    2. This site references academic sociological studies as if they were not directed by the power of finance, which controls the schooling of society through its issuance of credit, which in a money economy is the licence to act. A curious 'blindness' indeed.

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  3. shirlz007 has left a new comment on your post "GOD'S GAY WORLD":

    If it's between mature adults, consenting and not harming anyone... what's the problem? (theres some 'grey areas' in some of those 'areas' that need addressing, that need an open public contributed, 'expert' debate... adults/maturity, sexual behaviour between children, fantasy roleplay, 'harming').

    Also! While we're at it! Incest! Incestuous relationships... back while I read The Times (2008), I read an article about young women who had engaged in sexual relationships with their brothers, as teens.

    Themselves, and their brothers, had secretly sexually experimented, and had been careful regarding contraception/prevention, kept it secret from their parents (although some found out, with mixed reactions), they regarded it as part of engaging with the opposite sex, flirting and practice... two girls where friends at Uni and both disclosed similar stories.

    I find it's more common than what people care to imagine, and it's not a form of grooming or sexual abuse. I always remember it as being interesting.

    Theres a great book called 'The Fall' by Steve Taylor...

    David Icke is a bell-end...

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  4. Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "GOD'S GAY WORLD":

    It's generally Jew trolls pretending to be 'poor whites' who write the most 'ignorant' comments. All the Nazi websites-- and I mean ALL of 'em -- are owned by Jews. And the overwhelming number of commentators at the Jew owned Nazi websites are Jews as well...

    The KKK, by the way, was started by the Jew Albert Pike...

    If you think we need to be tolerant of homosexuals, go tell it to the blacks. They're the ones who vote overwhelmingly AGAINST equal right laws for gays & lesbians. And blacks are the ones in Africa killing homosexuals. Not Whites, but blacks. AND If you think slavery , including especially sex slavery, is wrong -- as you write much about sex slavery and you're so appalled by sex slavery -- go tell it to the Jews...

    From : Salvatore

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  5. AAngirfan
    I like your website and the range of exposures and Truths you bring out.
    Something troubled me with this article though. Something was wrong
    I am straight and have nothing against gays, and im open minded to any proper arguments about topics you mention in this article.
    What concerns me is how it was slipped in, how the 10 Billion cannot be sustained, and how 2 billion areneeded to live western lifestyles.
    What is this? I though Aangirfan was supposed to be about getting at the real facts and truth?
    Aangirfan, free energyis real. All the su[ppressed technology and the physics lies of the 20th century. Please do an indepth articleon that! Nikola Tesla. T Townsend Brownand his electrogravitics. Etheric energy is real. 100MW from a cubic foot of space.
    There is no emergency population crisis with 10billion. Getting the readers mindson board, saying how 2 billion would be better, speaks of an Agenda 21 agenda here i feel.
    But this cant beright because aangirfan is a good blogsite with articles that clearly take aim at powerful interests.
    My point is, just like you attack and uncover all the sex crimes, security service evil, you should also be attacking the appaling physics lies and cover up. And getting teslasand TTwonsend Browns technology released. Thereis no population crisis, except for the artificially created one by these evil elites, witholding it, allowing the suffering in this worldto go on. Artificial crisis, then solutions. Problem Reaction Solution.
    Free Energywill restore abundant clean water and nutrient rich foods toour planet within 1 to 2 years. Cleaning the seas and environment will be easy with free energy.
    I havenothing against gays. But im uncomfortable with this article that appears to align with the Jew Zionist jesuit Agenda 21 Agenda
    Thanks Adam

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    1. I have been to Haiti where the trees have mainly disappeared and children are hungry.

      I have been to Mumbai where the pavements are covered in sleeping people and where the slums stretch ever further into the distance.

      I have been to Java where there is no spare land left.

      I believe my own eyes.

      You write: 'Cleaning the seas and environment will be easy."

      Have you tested the water in the Irish Sea or off the coast of Japan?

      Remember that many of the big 'alternative' sites are secretly working for the CIA and the big US corporations.

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    2. The paranoid Agenda 21 people have your all wrong. Liberals would only bring about a voluntary reduction of people slowly over time. The best way to do that would be to bring in social security, public healthcare, and public pensions. Then people will feel a lot safer and have less children. You might ask, how can we afford that, but how can we afford not to, as the world gets overpopulated and millions of immigrants flood into Europe?


      In any case, governments are a able to create fiat money and have the authority and power to back it. Gold is BS because only the mega wealthy can afford to own gold mines, which means they will be able to wreck our economy and hold us ransom just like they do now.


      When the government spends fiat money into the economy in social services this stimulates the private economy. Everyone one wins, except the bankers, aka the ruling class, aka the aristocracy, aka the one percent. They want us to be too you our necks in debt in their private banks.

      The ruling class back the libertarians, the conservatives, the Agenda 21 folk, anyone who is paranoid of the government. This is because a real government run by the people is the biggest threat to them and their power.

      As the government pays the wages of government services public workers then spend the money into the private sector. At some point, though, there will be too much money in circulation and so inflation must start to occur. Then the government will tax people to remove the excess. This protects the value of their money and their savings.

      It's time for a social revolution, to end the power of the ruling class, to change the banking system to suite ordinary people, and to bring runaway world population growth back under control.

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    3. Was there ever a sillier superstition than the one that contends that before a community can build a bridge it must dig some yellow metal out of the ground? Money is nothing but accountancy, which should facilitate the attainment of everyone's aspirations but instead has been perverted into an instrument of societal control.

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  6. It takes deep thought and contemplation to arrive at the love that you so succinctly described above, a goal not attained by everyone yet is the only one that is truly right with the universe. Our battle is not those that seek love for loves sake and try not to harm, it is with those with the intention of harming and malice that do so out of the need and want for chaos and disorder.

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  7. 'First Look at Johnny Depp as James 'Whitey' Bulger in 'Black Mass'

    http://www.bostonmagazine.com/arts-entertainment/blog/2014/05/14/photos-johnny-depp-whitey-bulger-black-mass-shooting-locations/

    'Around 1950, while Salinger was in Stamford, the CIA recruited a South Boston convict nicknamed “Whitey” Bulger to supply young runaways for mind-control experiments under the fast-expanding MK-ULTRA programs being set up at 44 universities across the United States. The centers for the New England drug experiments were probably the Whiting Forensic Facility at the Connecticut Valley Hospital in Middleford, Connecticut, and Bridgewater Hospital in Massachusetts, the region’s psychiatric facilities for the criminally insane.

    With CIA backing, Bulger built up his Winter Hill Gang, composed mainly of Irishmen, who strong-armed their way to control over the Boston’s gambling scene and drug trafficking. While little is known about the political activities of the Bulger gang, its rise to crime dominance coincided with the expansion of weapons smuggling into Northern Ireland in support of the IRA. A parallel cross-Atlantic traffic in drugs (and illegal immigration in the reverse direction) began at the same time. The predominantly Irish political machine of Boston ­ from the Prohibition Era smuggling tycoon Joseph Kennedy Sr, to House Majority Leader Tip O’Neill ­ gave their blessings to the flourishing organized crime network and voiced support for the patriotic IRA “freedom fighters,” who returned the favor to Washington with murderous attacks on American-loathing British figures such as Lord Mountbatten.'
    http://rense.com/general95/mkultra.html

    I wonder what kind of spin, or hidden truths, Hollywood will reveal in this one!?!

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  8. http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/17/captain-scotts-biologist-was-not-amused-by-sexually-depraved-antarctic-penguins-4730948/
    Metro - 17 May 2014
    Captain Scott’s biologist was not amused by sexually ‘depraved’ Antarctic penguins

    A biologist with Captain Scott’s ill-fated 1910 Terra Nova expedition to the South Pole witnessed penguins engaging in sexual activities he believed to be so ‘depraved’ and scandalous he could only write about them in coded Greek.

    The explicit observations were left out of the published papers and have only now been made available to the public by the Natural History Museum.

    Biologist George Murray Levick’s Edwardian sense of propriety could not accept these ‘hooligan’ male Adelie penguins partaking in sex with dead penguins among other vices.

    He labelled the activity as ‘necrophilia’ and condemned the male penguins for their indecent enjoyment of the dead.

    In addition to such unspeakable sin, he witnessed sexual coercion, sexual abuse of chicks and homosexuality.

    Museum curator, Douglas Russell explained Levick’s shocked reaction to the BBC: ‘He, to a certain extent, falls into the same trap as an awful lot of people in seeing penguins as bipedal birds and seeing them as little people.’

    Dr Levick was the first person to ever observe and document a full breeding season of Adelie Penguins.

    Now, wouldn’t you be interested in Morgan Freeman narrating this particular X-rated version of Happy Feet?
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    Dead penguin sex? See later Aangirfan article about projection.
    I need proof of that before I believe it.

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  9. This is complete bollocks.

    Encouraging Homosexuality is wrong. But it will happen as the Bible foretells the coming again of the Days before Noah.

    THE KEY IS TO TEACH CHILDREN TO HAVE SEX AFTER MARRIAGE AND TO STAY WITH ONE PARTNER FOR LIFE. NOT TO ACT LIKE SLUTS AND START HAVING SEX AT 12 WITH 15 DIFFERENT 'PARTNERS'.

    YOU HAVE FELL FOR THE SAME BULLSHIT THAT HAS MADE THE ABORTION BUSINESS BOOM. WOMEN HAVE THE MENOPAUSE WHICH IS GODS WAY OF REGULATING POPULATION. JUST AS IS IMPOTENCY.

    SEX IS NOT LOVE. LOVE IS LOVE.

    SEX FOR SEX EVENTUALLY BEGETS UNLOVED HUMANS.

    LOVE BEGETS LOVE.

    YOU WANT TO SAY HOMOSEXUALITY IS 'NATURAL' THEN SO ARE SERIAL KILLERS AND PEADOPHILES. AND ON THAT BASIS LETS HOPE YOU VOLUNTEER YOUR CHILDREN FOR THE FIRST 'MEAL'.

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  10. Hullo Aang,

    I'm thinking I've arrived late enough to avoid the rush hour. Very good.

    I have to be honest mate and say that there's a lot of dodgy logic in amongst this. For starters there's the have-a-bob-each-way argument suggesting that "The purpose of homosexuality, in evolution, may be to keep down the size of the population" whilst simultaneously telling us that "genetic factors associated with same-sex preference must enjoy some sort of reproductive advantage". Hmm... which is it? Homosexuality as a means of population control or as a means of population enhancement? Keep in mind that evolution functions on a single determinant, that being survival, or not. I can understand the appeal of an argument that pivots on overpopulation being detrimental to a species with an inbuilt population-limiting function thus being evolutionarily sensible, but the question then becomes, 'How does that work exactly?' Evolutionarily bad functions are weeded out by having a greater death rate than evolutionarily useful functions which have a lesser death rate. Can you spot the illogic here? There is no way known that a number-limiting function, as it were, can grow into a paradigm by way of a mechanism that operates solely by maximising numbers. Can you dig it? It's all at odds with itself.

    I think the reason that this argument comes a cropper is due to the beg-the-question false premise of your Professor Barash. Here (repetitively) is the bit that counts: "genetic factors associated with same-sex preference must enjoy some sort of reproductive advantage... Anything that diminishes, even slightly, the reproductive performance of any gene should (in evolutionary terms) be vigorously selected against..." Well there's your problem right there, do you see? It's the words 'even slightly'.

    Imagine (bad analogy time) Barash going for a drive in your car and asserting that every lever on the dash is connected to the control of the vessel (since clearly that's what the dash is for) and now we have to figure out why the aircon is important to the driving of the car. Truth be known is isn't important. We can drive the car perfectly well without it. Indeed I've never owned a car with aircon, hard to believe I know.

    Wait! Here's another analogy! The human eye has a blind spot. This is because the nerves attaching the eye are attached backwards, ie. from the inside. Weirdly squids have it all the right way around, their nerves attach from the back. Squids have better eyesight than humans. Somehow their answer to the design problem of sight is better than ours. Anyway, according to Barash "Anything that diminishes, even slightly... should (in evolutionary terms) be vigorously selected against". Hmm... okay, so how come our eyes haven't been selected against? Why are we all still here? I reckon it's because our eyes are 'good enough'. Whilst it's true that good eyes are worthy because they are for the viability of offspring (allowing us to catch prey and avoid being prey), it's also true that eyes that we may call 'good enough' are fine because they are not against the viability of offspring. Can you dig it?

    And so it is with evolution. Not every aspect of physical function and human behaviour has to be evolutionary, which is to say for the viability of offspring. Rather (and this is crucial) it is more correct to say that no aspect of human behaviour may be against the aforementioned viability. To misunderstand this is to get the cart before the horse.

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    Let's take the argument to the logical (albeit absurd) endpoints. Thus, if the entire human population was exclusively and perfectly gay we would cease to exist. That is our 'zero' option. At the other end of the continuum would be the human species as entirely straight with no idea that gay exists. Since this would clearly work evolutionarily we will declare this 'one'. Of course this is a continuum and not an either/or problem. Thus the only question to ask is what degree of gay behaviour will be tolerated (and I use this word in strict mathematical terms) so that the population may flourish? And don't dismiss this - tolerance is a good and useful thing and (me as designer now) crucial to the answering of any design problem, which is what biology is.

    Anyway, back to the tolerancing now - I would declare that the likeliest percentage of gay people within a given population must necessarily be a minority and a small one at that. In fact I would go further and say it's likeliest that the figure would live outside of 2.1 standard deviations from the norm. I say this with no perfect certainty, I just find it gels with what I know of statistics ie. numbers outside this limit are viewed as not impinging upon any of the conclusions we might draw from a set of numbers.

    Germanely more to a discussion of evolution than to gayness I wrote about all of the above here and here. It may or may not be your cup of tea.

    Apart from the above it occurs to me that your idealised family caring gay individual is a thing that works in theory better than anything else. The first thought that struck me is that I have never met this person. And I know a lot of gay people. And to be frank with you if the subject is babies and children and the people expressing a view on it are gay then that view will invariably be negative in the extreme. Were you to ask me I would tell you that gays don't like babies and that's all there is to it.

    But let's imagine an earlier simpler time that precedes television and the death cult's warping of minds. In such a Rousseau-ian Arcady I would declare that yes it could well be possible that within families there would be individuals who care for children and function in an evolutionary fashion. Remember the gay chap in that Dustin Hoffman film Little Big Man? Perhaps it would look something like that.

    And that's fine but in a discussion of competing evolutionary functions the idea of gays in the role that was hitherto posited as explaining grandparents comes in as a poor second. Grandparents are usually possessed of a waning sex drive. Usually. And non-geriatric gay men?

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    Dear oh dear. Between the home-caring drive and the evolutionary equivalent of the blunt instrument, the big-don't-argue fight winner, which is to say, the "GET ROOTING! sex drive, the former is going to cop the shortest shrift imaginable. Or to put it another way, in any given Arcady the home carer argument will last precisely as long as it takes for that place to develop a town that has a gay quarter. And then it's all over. Then it's all mad rooting all the time. Well it certainly was in Oxford Street in Sydney when I lived there and no doubt still is.

    Hmm... you know what this means? Your idealised gay carer can only really exist in isolation, which is to say a statistical minority. As the numbers swell the likelihood of an abandoning of family links and an adoption of evolutionarily useless total gay lifestyle becomes ever greater.

    Anyway, none of this is a criticism of anything you understand. There's gay, and there's evolution, and both things exist and neither is against the other. But one ought not to confuse them. And that's alright isn't it? Me, I don't have a problem with it.

    Oh one more thing: the best way of reducing a population is to ensure that the people are well fed, educated, and otherwise not in fear of the lives. Which is to say, make them all middle class. And gay, whatever, I don't think it really matters.

    Had the death cult pursued some sensible and sustainable version of this rather than their idiotic usury pyramid scam which has perpetual growth as the only possible option then we'd all be fine. But their system of putting themselves at the top of the pyramid and love of slaves means that now we have too many people. Me, I'm all for population reduction as long as it's them first. I mean fair's fair - they got us here didn't they?

    Off I go now,

    best etc. etc.

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  13. We have replied to these points here:

    http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/gods-gay-world-part-two.html

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  14. the truth. thats what people are going to need in the 21st century about alot of things.stop being ignorant about race and gender issues. stick to what you know. stop being ignorant about what you dont know.
    you make good points about nature, history and art in history. stop shooting yourself in the foot by pitting everything against race issues. Have you seen the mass immigration of Europe?
    Its way beyond the scope of this blog...just keep up the good work. Unless of course you would like to live in a world where no whites ever existed...like a mudhut in Africa with no written language..and no wheel even invented. Other races want to take over a world THATS ALREADY BEEN BUILT by others.

    stick to gay issues.

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