BORN AGAIN
Elsagene and Tikvah
A young girl called Elsagene McCormick was found dead in the bathroom of the boarding house where she lived with her mother, whose name was Etta.
Etta helped run a brothel.
Elsagene died in 1938.
Elsagene's autopsy findings are consistent with her having been strangled.
Elsagene
Etta.
After her husband died, Etta worked for people who ran a Speakeasy and brothel on the North Side of Pittsburgh during Prohibition and the Great Depression of the 1930s.
Apparently, Etta's boyfriend sexually abused Elsagene.
Elsagene
Elsie
Living near Etta were Etta's brother, Eugene, and his wife, Elsie.
When Elsie's sister died, Elsie brought up her sister's child, who was a teenager called Ruth.
Elsagene pleaded unsuccessfully to be able to stay with the teenage Ruth.
Elsagene begged her, "Please, let me stay with you. Why can't you be my mother?"
Ruth later had a daughter called Tikvah.
Tikvah and Ruth both believe that Tikvah is a reincarnation of Elsagene.
Elsagene
How do we explain the apparent unfairness in life - the long prosperous life of the tyrant and the short life of the unhappy child?
Elsagene McCormick and Tikvah Dobsch
Many of the early Christians believed in Reincarnation
Some people thought that Jesus was Elijah (Matt 16:13).
Jesus said that Elijah would reincarnate (Matthew 17:11).
In John 9:2 the apostles asked Jesus whether the man blind from birth was blind due to his previous sinning.
We reap what we sow.
Pittsburgh
Tikvah Dobsch, who became Tikvah Feinstein, was born Tikvah Dobsch in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in 1944.
Her parents were Ruth and Rudolph Dobsch, who were both raised as Christians.
Rudolph had emigrated from Sudeten, on the German border with Czechoslovakia as a youth. He worked in the steel mills.
Ruth was born in the USA.
Ruth converted to Judaism and her daughter Tikvah was raised Jewish.
Elsagene asks Ruth to be her Mother, is Sexually Abused and Strangled, then is Reborn to Ruth as Tikvah
Tikvah writes:
"As a child, I could not bear having anything around my throat, especially anything that was tied like a scarf...
"I had terrifying nightmares ... about being held down ... In the dream, my mouth is clamped shut...
"I feared dying young...
"In 1950, while getting me ready for my first grade photo ... my mother shared a story regarding a girl who died 6 years before I was born...
"The girl, Elsagene, my mother continued, was found dead one evening in the bathroom of the boarding house where she lived with her mother, whose name was Etta. The door was locked..."
Elsagene and Tikvah
Tikvah writes:
"My mother then shared that she thought that I was Elsagene reborn.
"To hear this story so young I was shocked, and at five or six years of age too immature to understand...
"Sometimes the nightmares began as a dream that suddenly became terrifying, always with a similar theme.
"In the dream, there is an attack, a struggle, and following a piercing injury, a spirit body is released, symbolizing death.
"I believe our spirits survive death. This belief is supported by an experience of a cardiac arrest in 2007, when I retained consciousness from above the chaos as the paramedics worked on my body...
Life Before Birth.
Tikvah writes:
"In 2011, I began writing a memoir of my life..."
"I will share one last dream.
"In a dream I am lying on a bed. It is evening and a man, who is familiar to me, is sitting on the bed. We are both above the blankets. It feels safe and natural, like we have been together like this many times...
"The man makes a stiff figure sitting on the bed toward the head, reading something, intensely reading a page that is spread open, a neat fold in the center, it is shaped like, looks like a letter.
"He is upset about what he is reading...
"He reaches rather slowly up to my throat and gently wraps both hands around my neck...
"That was my last nightmare. I am happy to share that I have not had nightmares since 2008 or so.
"It seems that the integration of my phobias and nocturnal fears with her life and death have brought peace to my soul...
"Etta died an old woman and is buried beside her husband in United Cemetery, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania..."
Tikvah "wasn't a lonely child."
"She spent a childhood in many locations where she would discover and enjoy the outdoors enormously."
She married and divorced.
Like Etta she became the single mother of a daughter.
She became a nurse, earned a degree in English Writing from the University of Pittsburgh, worked as a reporter, creative writer, and editor, authored several books and "rediscovered her former self."
James Leininger and James Huston
Apparently, Etta's boyfriend sexually abused Elsagene.
Elsagene
Elsie
Living near Etta were Etta's brother, Eugene, and his wife, Elsie.
When Elsie's sister died, Elsie brought up her sister's child, who was a teenager called Ruth.
Elsagene pleaded unsuccessfully to be able to stay with the teenage Ruth.
Elsagene begged her, "Please, let me stay with you. Why can't you be my mother?"
Ruth later had a daughter called Tikvah.
Tikvah and Ruth both believe that Tikvah is a reincarnation of Elsagene.
Elsagene
How do we explain the apparent unfairness in life - the long prosperous life of the tyrant and the short life of the unhappy child?
Elsagene McCormick and Tikvah Dobsch
Many of the early Christians believed in Reincarnation
Some people thought that Jesus was Elijah (Matt 16:13).
Jesus said that Elijah would reincarnate (Matthew 17:11).
In John 9:2 the apostles asked Jesus whether the man blind from birth was blind due to his previous sinning.
We reap what we sow.
Pittsburgh
Tikvah Dobsch, who became Tikvah Feinstein, was born Tikvah Dobsch in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in 1944.
Her parents were Ruth and Rudolph Dobsch, who were both raised as Christians.
Rudolph had emigrated from Sudeten, on the German border with Czechoslovakia as a youth. He worked in the steel mills.
Ruth was born in the USA.
Ruth converted to Judaism and her daughter Tikvah was raised Jewish.
Elsagene asks Ruth to be her Mother, is Sexually Abused and Strangled, then is Reborn to Ruth as Tikvah
Tikvah writes:
"As a child, I could not bear having anything around my throat, especially anything that was tied like a scarf...
"I had terrifying nightmares ... about being held down ... In the dream, my mouth is clamped shut...
"I feared dying young...
"In 1950, while getting me ready for my first grade photo ... my mother shared a story regarding a girl who died 6 years before I was born...
"The girl, Elsagene, my mother continued, was found dead one evening in the bathroom of the boarding house where she lived with her mother, whose name was Etta. The door was locked..."
Elsagene and Tikvah
Tikvah writes:
"My mother then shared that she thought that I was Elsagene reborn.
"To hear this story so young I was shocked, and at five or six years of age too immature to understand...
"Sometimes the nightmares began as a dream that suddenly became terrifying, always with a similar theme.
"In the dream, there is an attack, a struggle, and following a piercing injury, a spirit body is released, symbolizing death.
"I believe our spirits survive death. This belief is supported by an experience of a cardiac arrest in 2007, when I retained consciousness from above the chaos as the paramedics worked on my body...
Life Before Birth.Tikvah writes:
"In 2011, I began writing a memoir of my life..."
"I will share one last dream.
"In a dream I am lying on a bed. It is evening and a man, who is familiar to me, is sitting on the bed. We are both above the blankets. It feels safe and natural, like we have been together like this many times...
"The man makes a stiff figure sitting on the bed toward the head, reading something, intensely reading a page that is spread open, a neat fold in the center, it is shaped like, looks like a letter.
"He is upset about what he is reading...
"He reaches rather slowly up to my throat and gently wraps both hands around my neck...
"That was my last nightmare. I am happy to share that I have not had nightmares since 2008 or so.
"It seems that the integration of my phobias and nocturnal fears with her life and death have brought peace to my soul...
"Etta died an old woman and is buried beside her husband in United Cemetery, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania..."
Tikvah "wasn't a lonely child."
"She spent a childhood in many locations where she would discover and enjoy the outdoors enormously."
She married and divorced.
Like Etta she became the single mother of a daughter.
She became a nurse, earned a degree in English Writing from the University of Pittsburgh, worked as a reporter, creative writer, and editor, authored several books and "rediscovered her former self."
James Leininger and James Huston
"At the age of two, James Leininger reportedly started having terrifying nightmares of his death.
"Ultimately, the family came to believe that he was the reincarnation of James Huston,a fighter pilot who died in World War II at Iwo Jima.
"Amazingly, Leininger not only knew the name of Huston's ship without prompting -- the Natoma Bay - but other details as well, such as the names of his shipmates."
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Pieter Langedijk, a Dutch psychotherapist, practises reincarnation therapy.
Chronic Illness? Try Reincarnation Therapy - Rense
A 50-year-old woman came to him with the complaint of a terrible pain in her right leg.
Pieter Langedijk asks the patient to see "pictures" and clicks his fingers.
The patient sits up straight. "I am lying on the floor of a hovel," she says dreamily.
"I feel younger but am unable to move...
"Someone is trying to strangle me," she cries. And the mystery of the strange pain is solved.
"In a past life, she was the 20-year-old crippled daughter of poor parents who could not look after her and had her killed," says Langedijk.
"After her moment of fear, she told me she was in a beautiful place with sunshine around her.
"I commanded her to go back there and imbibe the cosmic energy for healing. And she was cured."
A young teacher suffered excruciating stomach pain.
Under trance, he went back to 1942 when he was a Roman priest being beaten to death by a Nazi soldier in a concentration camp.
"Three weeks later," Langedijk says, "he went to a border town he had never been to before. Yet he recognised the church there immediately and an old photograph hanging on the wall.
"The resident priest said it was an old monk killed by the Nazis.
"Then he looked again at the young man and said, 'Why, you could be his son.'"
Labels: Child Abuse, Elsagene, James Leininger, Langedijk, murder, Pittsburgh, reincarnation, therapy, Tikvah
posted by Anon @ 01:34
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2 Comments:
Yep, whatever.... Reincarnation = cycle of pain and misery going on and on unless we want to learn to break it and evolve
What a post:
'Elsagene begged her, "Please, let me stay with you. Why can't you be my mother?" Ruth later had a daughter called Tikvah. Tikvah and Ruth both believe that Tikvah is a reincarnation of Elsagene.'
Reminds me of another Ruth who said, “Don’t force me to leave you; don’t make me go home. Where you go, I go; and where you live, I’ll live. Your people are my people, your God is my god; where you die, I’ll die, and that’s where I’ll be buried, so help me God—not even death itself is going to come between us!” (Ruth 1 16-17 'The Message').
Thanks aaangirfan. Poignant story.
You ask: 'How do we explain the apparent unfairness in life - the long prosperous life of the tyrant and the short life of the unhappy child?' It's difficult, and at some points I defer to mystery, “dunno” but God ain’t like the one you might/most do – might/infer from this (story).
'Many of the early Christians believed in Reincarnation'.
Quite a lot about Gnostix I reckon.
'Origen, (as stated earlier), was an influential Church Father--the most influential, perhaps, up until St. Augustine. He began his career in Alexandria, Egypt which, at the time, was a cosmopolitan melting pot brewing with religious and philosophical ideas--Christian, Greek, Roman, Jewish, Neoplatonist, Egyptian, even Buddhist and Brahmanist. ….We have examined several passages which have been attributed to Origen. In each case it has been shown that the material does not support the allegation that Origen believed in or taught the doctrine of reincarnation, in either the Pythagorean or modern forms. - (john-uebersax).'
Then comes Augustine who shapes the church and - western thinking. Wrongly. On so many tacks. Tick-tock. Gets time wrong. Life spread out ahead like a loooong movie but... Don't jive. Taint so. We all 'know' that. Yet, happenings galore, odd, kooky, shocking, reincarnating, rejuvenating, awe-inspiring, could be....
'Some people thought that Jesus was Elijah (Matt 16:13)' – 14 actually x
Disc-iples thought, umm... coz, some thought - him – reincarnated?
Jesus said: nah.
Jesus said that Elijah would reincarnate (Matthew 17:11). No he didn't.
17:11 - meets with E. Someone. Never died. Plus Jewish eschatological expectation overdrive. And poetics on John the Baptist. Just like.
'In John 9:2 the apostles asked Jesus whether the man blind from birth was blind due to his previous sinning.'
First response: we don't know where the punctuation lies. Roger Forster is a lone voice on this verse but a convince-me position. His audio is free under 'Ichthus'.
Jesus doesn't give an explanation about people born blind or any other problem. Who sinned? The popular Jewish understanding: sickness and disease is a punishment. (They also didn't believe in reincarnation as far as we know).
Disciples assumed.
Jesus: no.
Sin in womb – no again. Previous life (somehow)? - Idunnana. Well... don't believe, because life, just ain't like that. Is it?
Jesus says no on both counts. Our jobbo – do God's work.
'We reap what we sow.'
Context. Jesus says it as well. What we do in this life affects what we get. Once to die: next judgement (Hebrews 9:27). Mercy: Jesus.
The caller (a marine) at 6pm tonight on AJ (begins end of first hour) was revelatory, re; life in the military. Know this. Bursting info.
After PCR/AJ - wrote this, and read: 'Called By God' (Oswald Chambers today), on: 'I heard the voice of the Lord, saying: "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?" Then I said, "Here am I! Send me." —Isaiah 6:8.'
Thanks for your time
Mark
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