MAD CHRISTIANS
Jesus taught that we are all brothers and that we should be tolerant and kind.
Some Christians have made the world a better place by feeding the hungry and healing the sick.
But, some so-called Christians have ignored the teachings of Jesus.
Outside a courthouse in Omaha, Will Brown, was mutilated and burned. Brown was almost certainly innocent of the crime of which he had been accused. Cached
'Wearing beards and dressed in black, the religious zealots entered the temple and attacked the statue of the goddess Athena.
'When they were done, they melted out once again into the desert. Behind them the temple fell silent.'
These religious zealots were 'vicious bands of Christian thugs, in 385AD.'
The religious zealots 'carried out 'the largest destruction of art that human history had ever seen'.
The Darkening Age by Catherine Nixey / The Darkening Age
According to Nixey, after Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, the Christians 'eradicated liberal, pluralist and imaginative virtues and ushered in the Dark Ages'.
The Dark Ages lasted from roughly 500AD to 1,000AD.
In Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Christianity 'is seen as a brutal force for philistinism and iconoclasm (destruction of icons).'
The Darkening Age by Catherine Nixey
According to Nixey, after Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, the Christians 'eradicated liberal, pluralist and imaginative virtues and ushered in the Dark Ages'.
The Dark Ages lasted from roughly 500AD to 1,000AD.
In Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Christianity 'is seen as a brutal force for philistinism and iconoclasm (destruction of icons).'
The Darkening Age by Catherine Nixey
Some of the early Christians were mad fundamentalists.
Catherine Nixey, in The Darkening Age, relates:
There were monks who didn't wash for fear of experiencing lust at the sight of their own bodies.
There was a monk who spent three years with a stone in his mouth.
There were monks who went about on all fours.
St Anthony made his home in a pigsty.
St Simeon Stylites stood on a pillar for 37 years until his feet burst open.
In other words, some mad Christians have a masochistic desire to be martyrs.
The Darkening Age
Christians killing Christians.
Can we trust the official story on Jesus?
Historian Richard Carrier has written that references to Jesus in the work of Josephus were additions done by Christian scribes.
He points out that one particular passage, the execution of Jesus under Pilate, was obviously lifted from the Gospel of Luke.
It is probable that the Jews, such as St Paul, altered the story of Jesus, to tie it in with the Jewish Old Testament.
Jesus is like Krishna and Mithras? (see below)
Anonymous comments:
"These figures you mention are instances of an archetype.
"One is not necessarily causally derived from another...
"These figures are shadows of an archetype projected onto this world from a higher world.
"A higher world towards which this human world is evolving.
"One of ever greater truth, love and justice.
"All these three principles are necessary for the stability of complex systems of sentient beings..."
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A. It is the ideas associated with Jesus that are important.
'Love your enemies' is very different from 'an eye for an eye'.
Jesus's teachings have some similarity to those of Hillel the Elder.
"We can choose to accept our identity as projections of the Father and consciously co-create with the Father..." - Quantum Physics, Jesus and Intuition?
Darwin did not invent the theory of Evolution on his own.
There were earlier scientists who contributed to the theory Evolution.
Similarly, the ideas of Buddha are based partly on the ideas of earlier thinkers.
Catherine Nixey, in The Darkening Age, relates:
There were monks who didn't wash for fear of experiencing lust at the sight of their own bodies.
There was a monk who spent three years with a stone in his mouth.
There were monks who went about on all fours.
St Anthony made his home in a pigsty.
St Simeon Stylites stood on a pillar for 37 years until his feet burst open.
In other words, some mad Christians have a masochistic desire to be martyrs.
The Darkening Age
Historian Richard Carrier has written that references to Jesus in the work of Josephus were additions done by Christian scribes.
He points out that one particular passage, the execution of Jesus under Pilate, was obviously lifted from the Gospel of Luke.
It is probable that the Jews, such as St Paul, altered the story of Jesus, to tie it in with the Jewish Old Testament.
Jesus is like Krishna and Mithras? (see below)
Anonymous comments:
"These figures you mention are instances of an archetype.
"One is not necessarily causally derived from another...
"These figures are shadows of an archetype projected onto this world from a higher world.
"A higher world towards which this human world is evolving.
"One of ever greater truth, love and justice.
"All these three principles are necessary for the stability of complex systems of sentient beings..."
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A. It is the ideas associated with Jesus that are important.
'Love your enemies' is very different from 'an eye for an eye'.
Jesus's teachings have some similarity to those of Hillel the Elder.
Hillel said: "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour."
Jesus's teachings have some similarity to those of several other teachers, including Buddha, Lao-Tzu and certain physicists.
"We can choose to accept our identity as projections of the Father and consciously co-create with the Father..." - Quantum Physics, Jesus and Intuition?
Patrick Matthew, who published the basic concept of natural selection as a mechanism of evolution in an appendix to his 1831 book.
Darwin did not invent the theory of Evolution on his own.
There were earlier scientists who contributed to the theory Evolution.
Similarly, the ideas of Buddha are based partly on the ideas of earlier thinkers.
Paul, who was dedicated to the persecution of the early disciples of Jesus in the area of Jerusalem.
The first three Gospels do not refer to Jesus as God.
However, the letters of Paul, only some of which were written by Paul, see Jesus as being in some way divine.
The letters of Paul do not refer to Jesus's criticism of the rich and praise of the poor.
Paul was a conservative Jew.
The letters of Paul "are written to propagate the cult of a god crucified for the salvation of man..."
The Legend Of Jesus Christ.
The letters of Paul were written before the Gospels.
The letters of Paul do not refer to Jesus's criticism of the rich and praise of the poor.
Paul was a conservative Jew.
The letters of Paul "are written to propagate the cult of a god crucified for the salvation of man..."
The Legend Of Jesus Christ.
The letters of Paul were written before the Gospels.
Horus
B. The facts about the life of Jesus are disputed.
And the same is true of a number of other people with whom Jesus has been linked.
2. Mithra (2000 B.C.)
Reportedly:
Mithra had a virgin birth on December 25th.
Mithra was swaddled and laid in a manger.
Mithra was tended by shepherds in the manger.
He had 12 companions (or disciples).
He performed miracles.
He gave his own life to save the world.
He was dead for three days, then resurrected.
He was called 'the Way, the Truth and the Light.'
He had his own version of a 'Lord’s supper.'
5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus
3. Krishna (around 3000 B.C.)
Krishna was born after his mother was impregnated by a God.
Angels, wise men, and shepherds were at his birth.
At his birth, Krishna was given Gold, frankincense, and myrrh.
A jealous individual ordered the slaughter of all newborns.
Krishna was baptized in a river.
Krishna performed miracles, including raising the dead and healing the deaf and blind.
Krishna rose from the dead to ascend to heaven.
Krishna is expected to return to earth someday to fight the 'Prince of Evil.'
5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus
And the same is true of a number of other people with whom Jesus has been linked.
1. The facts about Horus (3100 B.C.) are disputed.
Reportedly:
Horus had 12 disciples.
Horus was born of a virgin.
Horus's birth was announced via a star.
Three wise men arrived.
He was baptized when he was 30 by Anup the Baptizer.
He raised someone from the dead.
He walked on water.
He was crucified, buried in a tomb, and resurrected.
5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus.
Reportedly:
Horus had 12 disciples.
Horus was born of a virgin.
Horus's birth was announced via a star.
Three wise men arrived.
He was baptized when he was 30 by Anup the Baptizer.
He raised someone from the dead.
He walked on water.
He was crucified, buried in a tomb, and resurrected.
5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus.
Mithra
2. Mithra (2000 B.C.)
Reportedly:
Mithra had a virgin birth on December 25th.
Mithra was swaddled and laid in a manger.
Mithra was tended by shepherds in the manger.
He had 12 companions (or disciples).
He performed miracles.
He gave his own life to save the world.
He was dead for three days, then resurrected.
He was called 'the Way, the Truth and the Light.'
He had his own version of a 'Lord’s supper.'
5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus
Krishna
3. Krishna (around 3000 B.C.)
Krishna was born after his mother was impregnated by a God.
Angels, wise men, and shepherds were at his birth.
At his birth, Krishna was given Gold, frankincense, and myrrh.
A jealous individual ordered the slaughter of all newborns.
Krishna was baptized in a river.
Krishna performed miracles, including raising the dead and healing the deaf and blind.
Krishna rose from the dead to ascend to heaven.
Krishna is expected to return to earth someday to fight the 'Prince of Evil.'
5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus
Osiris
4. Osiris (around 2500 B.C.)
Osiris was the son of an Egyptian God.
He was killed and the resurrected after three days in hell.
He performed miracles.
He had 12 disciples.
He taught rebirth through water baptism.
5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus
5. Buddha (563 B.C.)
Buddha fed 500 people from one basket of food.
Buddha walked on water.
Buddha healed the sick.
Buddha taught equality for all.
Buddha was resurrected when he died.
Osiris was the son of an Egyptian God.
He was killed and the resurrected after three days in hell.
He performed miracles.
He had 12 disciples.
He taught rebirth through water baptism.
5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus
5. Buddha (563 B.C.)
Buddha fed 500 people from one basket of food.
Buddha walked on water.
Buddha healed the sick.
Buddha taught equality for all.
Buddha was resurrected when he died.
5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus
6. Cleomenes, king of Sparta
"Late in the third century B.C. Cleomenes, king of Sparta, embarked on a revolutionary policy of cancellation of debts, redistribution of land and emancipation of the helots (slaves)."
"He was driven out of Sparta...
"In the story preserved by Plutarch, Cleomenes and twelve friends had a last supper together on the night before his death.
"He was betrayed to his enemies...
"His dead body was crucified.
"A prodigy occurred after the crucifixion; and the people of Alexandria called him a 'hero and son of the gods'."
The Legend Of Jesus Christ.
Conclusion:
The basic teaching of Jesus, about loving one's neighbours and tuning in to some kind of Holy Spirit, are fine.
But the 'official story' is not entirely true.
There is a suspicion that the 'biography' has had untrue bits added, and that there is a lot of 'spin'.
Below is what we wrote earlier:
...
The biblical scholar Joseph Atwill claims that the story of Jesus Christ is a HOAX designed to control the people.
Joseph Atwill's Blog | Discussing "Caesar's Messiah".
Atwill says that the Jesus story was designed by the Roman empire to justify slavery and to pacify the citizens.
Atwill writes: "Christianity was actually developed and used as a system of mind control to produce slaves that believed God decreed their slavery.”
Story of Jesus Christ was a HOAX designed to control the people, Biblical scholar claims
Atwill is very pro-Israel.
His claims have apparently been debunked.[2][3][4
John Dominic Crossan (above), professor emeritus at De Paul University Chicago, "believes that less than 20 percent of what we read in the Gospels are original sayings of Jesus."
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JESUS, MUHAMMAD, BUDDHA - WHAT WERE THEY REALLY LIKE?
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THE SPIRIT WORLD
Wallace believed in spiritual evolution. He believed that ... Alfred Russel Wallace and Indonesia. ....
Consciousness Outside the Body?
Excited over his discovery, Wallace penned an essay on the subject as soon as he was well enough to do so, and sent it off to Darwin.Darwin's ...
Life And Death Explained?
In February of 1858, Alfred Russel Wallace was thinking about evolution. Wallace was a ... Wallace said you needed a Supreme Intelligence.
GOD
The Upanishads, Creation, Pierre de Maupertuis, Jean Baptiste de Lamarck, Patrick Matthew and Alfred Russel Wallace According to The ...
6. Cleomenes, king of Sparta
"Late in the third century B.C. Cleomenes, king of Sparta, embarked on a revolutionary policy of cancellation of debts, redistribution of land and emancipation of the helots (slaves)."
"He was driven out of Sparta...
"In the story preserved by Plutarch, Cleomenes and twelve friends had a last supper together on the night before his death.
"He was betrayed to his enemies...
"His dead body was crucified.
"A prodigy occurred after the crucifixion; and the people of Alexandria called him a 'hero and son of the gods'."
The Legend Of Jesus Christ.
Conclusion:
The basic teaching of Jesus, about loving one's neighbours and tuning in to some kind of Holy Spirit, are fine.
But the 'official story' is not entirely true.
There is a suspicion that the 'biography' has had untrue bits added, and that there is a lot of 'spin'.
Below is what we wrote earlier:
...
The biblical scholar Joseph Atwill claims that the story of Jesus Christ is a HOAX designed to control the people.
Joseph Atwill's Blog | Discussing "Caesar's Messiah".
Atwill says that the Jesus story was designed by the Roman empire to justify slavery and to pacify the citizens.
Atwill writes: "Christianity was actually developed and used as a system of mind control to produce slaves that believed God decreed their slavery.”
Story of Jesus Christ was a HOAX designed to control the people, Biblical scholar claims
Atwill is very pro-Israel.
His claims have apparently been debunked.[2][3][4
John Dominic Crossan (above), professor emeritus at De Paul University Chicago, "believes that less than 20 percent of what we read in the Gospels are original sayings of Jesus."
Jesus attacked the Old Testament.
Jesus said: "Turn the other cheek."
We think that those Jewish Christians who wrote the New Testament made alterations to the Jesus story, in order to tie it in with the Old Testament.
And, we think that the Romans made alterations to the Jesus story, in order to aid the Roman empire.
But, the true parts of the Jesus story have been of benefit to the world.
Joseph Atwill argues that, at the time of Jesus, Jewish sects in Palestine were awaiting a 'warrior Messiah'.
According to Atwill, the Powers-That-Be thus designed the Jesus story in such a way that it would appear to give the people a Messiah, while at the same time making sure that the people remained slaves.
Atwill says: "Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged 'turn-the-other-cheek pacifism' and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome.
"Christianity can be ... an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty..."
What do we think?
Atwill, being a fan of Israel, does not like a pacifist Jesus.
Many of the people who have opposed poverty and serfdom are the followers of the Real Jesus.
1. Jesus shared meals with outcasts, which annoyed the Pharisees, strong supporters of the laws and traditions of the Jewish people.
We are a fan of Jesus.
David and Jonathan.
In Jeremiah 32:27 we read "God is all powerful."
In Judges 1:19 we read: "God is not all powerful."
Biblical Contradictions
Sensible Christians "consider some passages of the Bible (e.g. those referring to slavery, burning some hookers alive, forcing rape victims to marry their rapists, raping female prisoners of war, etc.) as not being valid today, as immoral, and against the will of God.
"They differentiate among various homosexual and heterosexual sex practices, treating some (rape, prostitution, temple sex rituals) as immoral and some (consesual activity within committed relationships) as positive."
www.smc-mb.net
The early Christians had various theories about Jesus.
Jesus did not become 'officially' divine until 325 AD.
This was when the Council of Nicaea, set up by the Roman emperor Constantine, decided that Jesus, like many Roman Emperors, was divine.
Most scholars agree that Jesus did actually exist.
"Amy-Jill Levine states that ... 'there is a consensus of sorts on the basic outline of Jesus' life' in that most scholars agree that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, debated Jewish authorities on the subject of God, performed some healings, gathered followers...." [68]
Christ myth theory - Wikipedia
In The Historical Jesus; Five Views, Robert Price suggests that the story of Jesus in the Gospels contains borrowings from pagan mythology.
In the same book, Professor Luke Timothy Johnson lists all the things historians can know with 'a very high degree of probability' about Jesus - Jesus taught in parables, Jesus healed people, Jesus taught about God's Kingdom.
The Recliner Commentaries: Five views of the historical Jesus
David Strauss (1808–1874), a German theologian, believed that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and that the encounter had influenced the views of Jesus.
Frazer himself believed that Jesus existed.[235]
"Positive Thinking is Merely Scratching the Surface of Truth: We must be attentive to intuition
"As the Quantum physicist has discovered, our beliefs come true.
The fundamentalists are no fun
But, the true parts of the Jesus story have been of benefit to the world.
Joseph Atwill argues that, at the time of Jesus, Jewish sects in Palestine were awaiting a 'warrior Messiah'.
According to Atwill, the Powers-That-Be thus designed the Jesus story in such a way that it would appear to give the people a Messiah, while at the same time making sure that the people remained slaves.
Atwill says: "Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged 'turn-the-other-cheek pacifism' and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome.
"Christianity can be ... an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty..."
What do we think?
Atwill, being a fan of Israel, does not like a pacifist Jesus.
Many of the people who have opposed poverty and serfdom are the followers of the Real Jesus.
What evidence is there that Jesus was (A) an opponent of the Establishment, or (B) a tool of the establisment?
1. Jesus shared meals with outcasts, which annoyed the Pharisees, strong supporters of the laws and traditions of the Jewish people.
Jesus said: "Be on your guard against the Doctors of the Law, who like to walk about in robes and be saluted in the streets... who devour the livelihood of widows..."
2. Jesus talked of 'good people' being his 'brothers' and 'sisters'.
3. Jesus urged people to 'renounce self'.
Jesus said: "If anyone wishes to be the first, he must be the last of all and the servant of all."
Jesus said: "Why do you call me good? No one but God is good."
4. Jesus said: "How difficult it is for men of wealth to enter the Kingdom of God."
Jesus appears to attack the Old Testament.
Jesus said: "Turn the other cheek."
In Numbers 31:14, 17, 18: "Moses said 'Kill all the women and boys, but keep the girls for yourselves."
Moses, if he ever existed, was obviously a child killer.
In Matthew 5:1,2 "Jesus went up into a mountain: and when he was ready, his disciples came to him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."
This is the Sermon on the Mount.
The Bible is like the curate's egg - good in parts.
The Bible, like the Koran, is a very human attempt to describe what life is all about.
This is the Sermon on the Mount.
In Luke 6:17,20: "Jesus stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."
This is the Sermon on the Mount, but, it is in the plain.
Luke seems to be making it up.
Christians killing Christians.This is the Sermon on the Mount, but, it is in the plain.
Luke seems to be making it up.
..
The Old Testament is endless contradictions.
In Isaiah 14:21 we read that people should "Kill the children because of the sins of their fathers."
In Deuteronomy 24:16 we read "Children should not be put to death for the sins of their fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
In Jeremiah 13:14 we read: "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."
In Psalms 145:9 we read: "The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works."
In Jeremiah 32:27 we read "God is all powerful."
In Judges 1:19 we read: "God is not all powerful."
Biblical Contradictions
Many of the people who leave comments on this blog have been brainwashed by fundamentalist Christians.
www.smc-mb.net
The early Christians had various theories about Jesus.
Jesus did not become 'officially' divine until 325 AD.
This was when the Council of Nicaea, set up by the Roman emperor Constantine, decided that Jesus, like many Roman Emperors, was divine.
Most scholars agree that Jesus did actually exist.
"Amy-Jill Levine states that ... 'there is a consensus of sorts on the basic outline of Jesus' life' in that most scholars agree that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, debated Jewish authorities on the subject of God, performed some healings, gathered followers...." [68]
Christ myth theory - Wikipedia
In The Historical Jesus; Five Views, Robert Price suggests that the story of Jesus in the Gospels contains borrowings from pagan mythology.
The Recliner Commentaries: Five views of the historical Jesus
However, Strauss believed that "the additional elements of the sky opening, the dove descending on Jesus as the Holy Spirit, etc. were subsequent miraculous embellishments by the authors of the gospels intended to emphasize the importance of a key event in the life of Jesus."[220] [225]
Strauss believed that the divine spirit was embedded in all of humanity.
In 1890, Sir James George Frazer published the first edition of The Golden Bough which showed "the shared elements of religious belief."
In 1890, Sir James George Frazer published the first edition of The Golden Bough which showed "the shared elements of religious belief."
Frazer himself believed that Jesus existed.[235]
Smith argues that in the parable of the Jesus and the rich young manthere never was a young man, and the young man symbolizes the nation of Israel. [254]
Or we can choose to accept our identity as projections of the Father and consciously co-create with the Father...
"Quantum physics has proven that the belief of the observer is translated in the test tube.
"Quantum physics has proven that the belief of the observer is translated in the test tube.
"Each energy packet can become particle or remain as energy depending on the expectation of the observer.
"This is known as the observer effect.
"Positive Thinking is Merely Scratching the Surface of Truth: We must be attentive to intuition
"As the Quantum physicist has discovered, our beliefs come true.
"Our parents probably forgot that we are connected, just as they are connected to the One.
"In this same way, Herod of Judea forgot that he and Jesus were both born of the Creator/Father/One.
"Herod attempted to kill Jesus by ordering all the newborn children of Bethlehem to be slain.
"But, since Joseph was attentive to his intuition, (for intuitive training go to Andrea Hess...) he was warned by the One/Creator/Father to flee to Egypt.
"But, since Joseph was attentive to his intuition, (for intuitive training go to Andrea Hess...) he was warned by the One/Creator/Father to flee to Egypt.
"Jesus was safe during His childhood. They only returned to Israel after they were told of the death of Herod.
"When Jesus was grown, he fasted for 40 days and 40 nights before beginning His ministry... a month of fasting will cause an altered state of reality.
"When Jesus was tempted by His Ego to turn the stones into bread, He reminded the tempter that 'man does not live by bread alone.' Thus He determined to finish his vision quest...
"Jesus told the Ego to get behind Him because it is only the One/Source/Creator who would be served.
"When Jesus was tempted by His Ego to turn the stones into bread, He reminded the tempter that 'man does not live by bread alone.' Thus He determined to finish his vision quest...
"Jesus told the Ego to get behind Him because it is only the One/Source/Creator who would be served.
"To accept our identity as co-Creators with the One, we must put our finite Egos behind us.
"Our Subconscious mind is connected to our Higher Mind and to the Creator/One/Source.
"The Ego is only connected to our conscious minds and helps keep us involved in this physical world.
"But, at the same time, we must learn to influence our Subconscious Minds in order to create our reality..."
Who was Jesus?
John Dominic Crossan, professor emeritus at De Paul University Chicago, is an Irish-American religious scholar.
(John Dominic Crossan Web Site)
Crossan "believes that less than 20 percent of what we read in the Gospels are original sayings of Jesus."
Crossan "believes that less than 20 percent of what we read in the Gospels are original sayings of Jesus."
Crossan does not dispute that Jesus Christ really lived.
Independent accounts "prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus."
(Quoted in Josh McDowell, Evidence That Demands a Verdict, vol. 1 (Nashville: Nelson, 1979), 87.)
(Quoted in Josh McDowell, Evidence That Demands a Verdict, vol. 1 (Nashville: Nelson, 1979), 87.)
Crossan sees Jesus as a healer and man of great wisdom.
(John Dominic Crossan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )
(John Dominic Crossan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )
According to Crossan, Jesus's teachings would have upset the elite.
According to Crossan, "The Kingdom of God comes not at some future time
"You cannot point out the sign of its coming
"The Kingdom of God comes not at some special site
"You cannot point out the place of its coming
"The Kingdom of God is already here, among you, now."
Egyptians, by Veralyn Adeyinka
In a review of a Crossan book, Peter Broady wrote (Review of The Essential Jesus by John Dominic Crossan.):
"One can only wonder what the Jewish peasant who spoke of the poor and destitute as ‘blessed’ along with the ‘peacemakers’ and ‘those that hunger and thirst after justice’, and said that it is nearly impossible for wealth and the ‘kingdom of God’ to coexist, would think of our unimaginably wealthy country where the gap between rich and poor has reached heights unimaginable in his time..."
Jesus said, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God."
He also said that he was not seeking glory for himself.
He also said that he was not seeking glory for himself.
Jesus wanted people to be humble, like little children. He wanted people to see themselves as servants. Jesus washed people's feet.
What about Jesus when he was criticising some of the Jewish leaders and calling them names?
In Matthew, Jesus says, "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!... You blind fools!... You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?"
In Matthew, Jesus says, "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!... You blind fools!... You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?"
This seems to conflict with Jesus's teaching about not judging people; and about seeing your own faults; about turning the other cheek and about not resisting evil.
When Jesus talked about being at one with the Father, that could mean many different things.
Jesus believed that we can all be one with the divine.
Jesus believed that we can all be one with the divine.
The guru must teach that we should be humble, kindly and flexible in our thinking. But, the guru must himself be humble, kindly and flexible.
The fundamentalists are no fun
The Religion OF Jesus - not ABOUT Jesus: Toward the theology OF Jesus
"Jesus, in fact, was typical of a certain kind of fanatical young idealist: at one moment holding forth, with tears in his eyes, about the need for universal love; at the next furiously denouncing the morons, crooks and bigots who do not see eye to eye with him, It is a very natural and human behavior." - Margaret Knight, 'Honest to Man' : p26 ( personality )
The Prophet said, "Have I not taught you how the inhabitants of Paradise will be all the humble and the weak..." Islam: Hadith of Bukhari.
"Be humble, be harmless, Have no pretension..." Hinduism: Bhagavad Gita
"To know when one does not know is best. To think one knows when one does not know is a dire disease." Taoism: Tao Te Ching
"The fool who knows that he is a fool is for that very reason a wise man; the fool who thinks he is wise is called a fool indeed." Buddhism: Dhammapada
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JESUS, MUHAMMAD, BUDDHA - WHAT WERE THEY REALLY LIKE?
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THE SPIRIT WORLD
Wallace believed in spiritual evolution. He believed that ... Alfred Russel Wallace and Indonesia. ....
Consciousness Outside the Body?
Excited over his discovery, Wallace penned an essay on the subject as soon as he was well enough to do so, and sent it off to Darwin.Darwin's ...
Life And Death Explained?
In February of 1858, Alfred Russel Wallace was thinking about evolution. Wallace was a ... Wallace said you needed a Supreme Intelligence.
GOD
The Upanishads, Creation, Pierre de Maupertuis, Jean Baptiste de Lamarck, Patrick Matthew and Alfred Russel Wallace According to The ...
Labels: archetypes, Buddha, Catherine Nixey, Cleomenes, Crossan, Dark Ages, Darkening Age, destruction, Gibbon, icons, Jesus, Josephus, Krishna, Lao-Tzu, monks, Richard Carrier
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' christianity' is a jewish invention to destroy the roman empire/the european peoples done by jewish ' christians' who acted as spies for the jews. A real psy-ops.
saul was a double agent for the sanhedrin. It's the ' christians' who defend the jews as many ' christians' are really crypto - jews. We got to get rid of this superstition which makes us slaves of the jews mentally and materially. History hides that the so called battle between the jews and the ' christians' is a battle between jewish factions by which the stupid goyim are/ have been used by these jewish elites who govern the jews and ' christianity'. The most important fact is that there is no proof of the ' nazarener'. We know that jews invented their stories by copying the history of other peoples and making it suitable for themselves as a cult. There are stupid ' christians' who don't want to understand that ' christianity' held the goyim always stupid and poor not surprisingly as it is a tool of the jews. Even Hitler made the great mistake to think that ' christianity' was a bulwark against the jews as many so called nazis erroneously still think. The jews and ' christianity' are just two jewish factions, like two jewish brothers, using the hegelian tactic of thesis anti-thesis.
Aangirfan,
There are no coincidences. These figures you mention are instances of an archetype; one is not necessarily causally derived from another.
The archetype itself can be inferred through a basic process of abstraction.
So these figures are shadows of an archetype projected onto this world from a higher world. A higher world towards which this human world is evolving. One of ever greater truth, love and justice.
All these three principles are necessary for the stability of complex systems of sentient beings.
And such systems may be far simpler to build than you imagine, synthetic worlds peopled with sentient beings. Only slightly more complex video games with synthetic actors and doctors and billionaires. And synthetic researchers of neuromorphic AI, in synthetic Googles and Baidus, who humbly believe no-one did this before. Realistic video games, walk-in movies, fake realities.
But what is truth?
It is the minimal, internally-consistent description that accords with an observed reality. A web of lies is a costly thing to maintain, but the truth is pure and simple. However, for us, the truth is more a process of rational discovery than a Platonic absolute.
But what is love?
It is the ability to mirror another soul, not only know how another soul thinks, but more how they feel. To care about others as you care about yourself; the abnegation of the self; to be at peace with the world.
And what is justice, the most fearsome of these principles?
Justice is that state where no soul has any reason to prefer the circumstances of another soul. So in a just society, no woman need prefer to be a man, or vice versa. No-one black or brown or red or gold or white has reason to prefer another colour. Short, tall. Young, old. And so on. Each person would see the other as different but equal; and appreciate the variety that gives colour to their world.
Without these principles things fall apart.
It is best you learn to practise them while you're in this world. Certain things you do not want to be forced to learn after this life; a painful experience.
Justice is a necessary feedback control mechanism to guide us to kind behaviour that lets us live together in peace.
If you're fortunate, your transgressions against justice are dealt with in this world, through consequence and punishment. If not, imagine every evil thing you've ever done to others being done to you.
Maybe those "Christian" folk who burned innocents alive don't understand what they were doing. Nor those other people today whose faith brings death. Nor others of questionnable faith, like Hillary of Hell's Kitchen, who, absent all shame, delights in the butchery of another.
They will understand.
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"And that's your definition of justice, huh?"
"There are many different forms of justice, Chris. See you got Man's, God's. And even the Devil's."
Convinced the One portrayed in the Bible is authentic and divine. This heightens the what-madness in God’s name. Claims it's made-up, most/all fiction -- as you acknowledge -- have valid counter arguments. On the basis of textual history and the like, we cannot 'know’ either way. Readers here should be the first to be open and things not always as presented the realities behind. The best case against Bible-based following God is certain theology. The nature of supposed-God and engagement with the world. Place to argue. Yet, might be where the words and meanings, shine though. And God emerging... in our midst. Have an Atwill book, which wrote on Tap years ago, would do a review but haven’t/yet done. Main gripe are some of the over-wrought assumptions. Reminds me the way more fundie-church can come across. Particularly in regards to those who might be sceptical and in consideration toward. Dismissive and unnecessary and in this, insecure. Sunday four years ago, almost to the day, wrote my first comment on ye here, top of my pop-blog. Began with; ‘I'm a fan of Jesus...’ which seems to me, where someone might find helpful space. Not in attempting to do sums and about other beliefs held. Appreciation and if can, ‘what-if?’ And before y’know, maybe, “hey you...”. Not to say there aren’t, this + this = conclusions but there’s room enough. God coming and heart reaching-out in grace and with mercy. Seeking and reasoning, the connect back. Room to wrestle and rumble about what’s what and with this, God’s approval. Questions are the answer for answers. And faith cometh by hearing… the word, as we are doing, in reading this rare outpost. Now back to re-reading and digging about on Mad Christians.
Excellent post. Spiritual jewels glitter in the darkness of religion.
Know Thyself.
Behold, I have sent you forth as a sheep in the midst of wolves, be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matthew 10:16
The kingdom of heaven is within. Luke 17:21
HOW ABOUT THIS ONE?
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/11/18/another-massive-pedophile-ring-uncovered-with-clear-ties-to-pope-benedicts-brother/
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/11/18/another-massive-pedophile-ring-uncovered-with-clear-ties-to-pope-benedicts-brother/
Apparently, the early Christians debated whether to leave the Old Testament off the Bible. I wish they had.
Of course, Jesus existed.
Also went to India, Egypt, spoke with brahminical priest in Jagannatha Puri.
And allegedly left a words on pillar " This world is a bridge : do not build your home on it..."
Can we follow this exalted teachings ?
Myself, i stick with Hare Krishnas from the 90's.
But i still believe in Jesus.
I respect Buddha teachings,
even muzzies got some positive msg in their book.
Let us try to more feel things... better than countless efforts to understand with reasonable brain.
THE TRUTH IS INSIDE.
Instead of overintellectualising everything,
better to practice !
Om namo bhagavate Vasudevaya,
Om Buddhaya namaha,
glory to Lord Jesus.
Ommmm, amen, peace
From France ;-)
Understand the electric universe and you will see where all religion comes from. It is all astrotheology. https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2015/12/30/eu2016-home-page/
NO, bollocks...because originally religion comes from God; Supreme Person. Veda...
Universe was not created by chance. To claim that creation was accidental is pure ignorance and foolishness...
But of course, most of the religion were distorted by men.
he left out moses abraham and isrealhell
Thank you for this post
I believe that Jesus existed, and that he was a transcendent soul. I also believe that he weeps for what is done in his name. I only ever met one Christian who merited that title and who wasn't nuts. He was a Japanese baptist pastor of all things. He was a good and gentle man who truly lived his beliefs. Every other christian I ever met is either sociopathic and hiding behind their professed beliefs, or just downright crazy. Varying degrees, some of course worse than others. Im sure there could be other genuinely good ones but few and far between. I've had some pretty horrendous experiences with them and it's hard to fathom how they can live with themselves but I've been told they figure they can do anything because they get forgiven on Sunday.
Your hatred of Christianity and Americans is making you miss a huge part of the picture. I'm not trying to insult you. I just wish you'd open your mind.
We call ourselves Christians. But we are not fundamentalists. We love Americans, but we are not fascists.
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