Some people find it difficult to believe in the God of the Old Testament, the idea for which came from earlier religions.
A lot of the stories in the Old Testament are borrowed from the Sumerians.
"The story of Noah and the flood story, the creation of man out of clay, Cain and Abel, the gardens of Eden, the tree of knowledge, creation of Eve from Adams rib, and numerous other myths, like the throwing of Moses in the river after he was born, are all stories found recorded on Sumerian clay tablets dating 5000 years back in time."
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Evidence of 'near death' experiences lead some people to believe in God.
Eric Dubay refers to the mystery of "God, Brahma, Tao, Universal Mind, the One, the Void, the Field, Infinite Consciousness, or whatever you want to call it."
God, Brahma, Tao, Void ...
Is God within us?
Jesus said that the Heaven is within us.
Jesus said that the Heaven is within us.
Is God a process rather than a being?
Is God not 'a ruler' who directs the world from above, but 'a principle' that controls everything from within?
The Taoists and Buddhists might agree.
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How real is the world?
Eric Dubay (God, Brahma, Tao, Void ...) writes:
Did God create mosquitoes?
Is there an old man in the sky who created the universe?
Su writes in her blog about "the child in a burn ward screaming, screaming, screaming."
Su refers to Eastern religions and the value of 'Stepping out of mind.....god willing'.
Nina refers to the cruel 'plantation owners' of this world.
Nina refers to the Taoist view of things in 'a select destiny'.
Dawkins does not believe that the CIA did 9 11.
Is there an old man in the sky?
The Jewish, Christian and Moslem religions think so.
The Jewish, Christian and Moslem religions have their origins in Zoroastrianism, which began in Iran, around the 6th century BC .
(Influence of Zoroastrianism on Judaism and Christianity - (CAIS)©)In Zoroastrianism (Zoroastrianism)a:
There is a God who is the Creator and who is all good.
There is an evil force who will ultimately be destroyed.
There is a saviour who will save the world.
In Zoroastrianism we find the equivalents of baptism, communion, guardian angels, heaven, worship on Sunday, the celebration of Mithras' birthday on December 25th, celibate priests who mediate between man and God, and the Trinity.
(Influence of Zoroastrianism on Judaism and Christianity - (CAIS)©)
People in countries influenced by Buddhism, such as Thailand and Indonesia, often seem happier than most.
BUT, what if the Zoroastrians have not got it quite right?
The Buddhists believe in some kind of life after death, but they keep a noble silence on the idea of God.
The Taoists refer to some kind of divine force called the Tao, but they say that it cannot be described in words.
It is difficult to imagine an old man in the sky designing this world on his design board.
It is difficult to imagine him designing a world in which one creatures survives by eating another creature.
So, maybe there was no Bible-style creation.
Maybe things have always existed.
Maybe there is a mysterious something which nourishes us.
Maybe we reap what we sow.
Maybe what we are now is due to what we thought in the past.
Maybe what we will become is what we are thinking now.
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We quote from: 'a select destiny' (Deep Into Artlife West - blogspot)
"Something we cannot define with science and logic is happening here, a grand design, some not-of-this-world intention we are simply not at the rightful stage of development to comprehend regardless of our effort.
"I believe this makes us a unique product of evolution to remain invincible in the face of pure unadulterated evil where vast and continuing material loss strips us to the lowest category of Earthly life and it has no influence at all...
"We go on in trust, always looking forward, accepting each test as triathlon athletes determined to pass and not just well, but intact, because in spite of the incessant repeats, it makes the good, the pure, the honest, the natural reverent and holy, gifts from somewhere else reminding us the world we desire really does exist and one day we are destined to reach it."
Science and Religion.
Here are some people's thoughts about life:
1. "It does not matter how long you are spending on the earth, how much money you have gathered or how much attention you have received.
3. 'Religion comes in opposites to be attractive to different personalities.'
- Steven Reiss , a professor of psychologist at Ohio State University.
According to Reiss, organised religions address the 16 basic human desires - curiosity, acceptance, family, honour, idealism, independence, order, physical activity, power, romance, saving, social contact, eating, status, tranquility and vengeance.
Is God not 'a ruler' who directs the world from above, but 'a principle' that controls everything from within?
The Taoists and Buddhists might agree.
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How real is the world?
Eric Dubay (God, Brahma, Tao, Void ...) writes:
"In dreams you create entire worlds, environments, situations, and even other people.
"You interact and converse, create conflict and resolutions, get emotional and involved..."
"You interact and converse, create conflict and resolutions, get emotional and involved..."
In the parable about the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve created problems for themselves.
Did God create mosquitoes?
Is there an old man in the sky who created the universe?
Su writes in her blog about "the child in a burn ward screaming, screaming, screaming."
Su refers to Eastern religions and the value of 'Stepping out of mind.....god willing'.
Nina refers to the cruel 'plantation owners' of this world.
Nina refers to the Taoist view of things in 'a select destiny'.
Dawkins does not believe that the CIA did 9 11.
Is there an old man in the sky?
The Jewish, Christian and Moslem religions think so.
The Jewish, Christian and Moslem religions have their origins in Zoroastrianism, which began in Iran, around the 6th century BC .
(Influence of Zoroastrianism on Judaism and Christianity - (CAIS)©)In Zoroastrianism (Zoroastrianism)a:
There is a God who is the Creator and who is all good.
There is an evil force who will ultimately be destroyed.
There is a saviour who will save the world.
In Zoroastrianism we find the equivalents of baptism, communion, guardian angels, heaven, worship on Sunday, the celebration of Mithras' birthday on December 25th, celibate priests who mediate between man and God, and the Trinity.
(Influence of Zoroastrianism on Judaism and Christianity - (CAIS)©)
People in countries influenced by Buddhism, such as Thailand and Indonesia, often seem happier than most.
BUT, what if the Zoroastrians have not got it quite right?
The Buddhists believe in some kind of life after death, but they keep a noble silence on the idea of God.
The Taoists refer to some kind of divine force called the Tao, but they say that it cannot be described in words.
It is difficult to imagine an old man in the sky designing this world on his design board.
It is difficult to imagine him designing a world in which one creatures survives by eating another creature.
So, maybe there was no Bible-style creation.
Maybe things have always existed.
Maybe there is a mysterious something which nourishes us.
Maybe we reap what we sow.
Maybe what we are now is due to what we thought in the past.
Maybe what we will become is what we are thinking now.
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We quote from: 'a select destiny' (Deep Into Artlife West - blogspot)
"Something we cannot define with science and logic is happening here, a grand design, some not-of-this-world intention we are simply not at the rightful stage of development to comprehend regardless of our effort.
"I believe this makes us a unique product of evolution to remain invincible in the face of pure unadulterated evil where vast and continuing material loss strips us to the lowest category of Earthly life and it has no influence at all...
"We go on in trust, always looking forward, accepting each test as triathlon athletes determined to pass and not just well, but intact, because in spite of the incessant repeats, it makes the good, the pure, the honest, the natural reverent and holy, gifts from somewhere else reminding us the world we desire really does exist and one day we are destined to reach it."
Science and Religion.
Here are some people's thoughts about life:
1. "It does not matter how long you are spending on the earth, how much money you have gathered or how much attention you have received.
"It is the amount of positive vibration you have radiated in life that matters."
- Amit Ray
2. "Nature doesn't disdain what lives only for a day.
"It pours the whole of itself into the each moment. We don't value the lily less for not being made of flint and built to last.
"Life's bounty is in its flow, later is too late.
"Where is the song when it's been sung? The dance when it's been danced?"
- Steven Reiss , a professor of psychologist at Ohio State University.
According to Reiss, organised religions address the 16 basic human desires - curiosity, acceptance, family, honour, idealism, independence, order, physical activity, power, romance, saving, social contact, eating, status, tranquility and vengeance.
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Bart D. Ehrman
Bart D. Ehrman
4. The real Jesus reportedly taught that we should tune in to the Holy Spirit, love our enemies, see our own faults before we see the faults of others, heal the sick, feed the hungry and treat our fellow citizens as our brothers.
Most of the rest of the stuff about Jesus is apparently invention.
Tony Bushby writes: "In the fourth century, the Roman Emperor Constantine united all religious factions under one composite deity, and ordered the compilation of new and old writings into a uniform collection that became the New Testament."
"Constantine's intention at Nicaea was to create an entirely new god for his empire...
"Presbyters were asked to debate and decide who their new god would be... The names of 53 gods were tabled for discussion."
(God's Book of Eskra, Prof. S. L. MacGuire's translation, Salisbury, 1922, chapter xlviii, paragraphs 36, 41).
(God's Book of Eskra, Prof. S. L. MacGuire's translation, Salisbury, 1922, chapter xlviii, paragraphs 36, 41).
The Forged Origins of The New Testament.
"The earliest of the manuscripts of the New Testament which are still in existence, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD."
(Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).
The World's oldest Bible is the Sinai Bible.
"When the New Testament in the Sinai Bible is compared with a modern-day New Testament, a staggering 14,800 editorial alterations can be identified."
"The earliest of the manuscripts of the New Testament which are still in existence, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD."
(Catholic Encyclopedia, op. cit., pp. 656-7).
The Forged Origins of The New Testament.
5. Lyndon Nadel writes:
You may have seen this Symbol. It is a Dragon eating his own Tail. It is the ancient symbol for time.
It represents Infinite time, where time begins, ends, and continues all at the same point.
What we live in, is named Infinite time. Meaning that time has already begun, finished and continued down every path.
Every possible scenario that could be carried out in time, has already done so.
Every possible dimension that could exist, has already existed and is currently in existence. All at the same moment.
The time in which we are experiencing at this present moment, has already been concluded, in every possible direction that it could occur.
In one dimension, we all die of a nuclear world war III, in another we all live prosporous lives and man kind reaches out into the stars after conquering human suffering.
It has already happened, and it will happen again.
Lyndon Nadel writes:
We do not have the power to alter or change time; our brains only offer us the opportunity to choose the destiny that we witness.
We pick and choose every moment, which dimension we head down in our finite lives.
Bare in mind, that you are not altering the universe in anyway; you are not changing what will occur; you are merely chosing between the events you wish to witness in this life.
Because every senario has has a different ending, and every moment leads to a different dimension...
Reincarnation Explained. Time is NOT linear.
5. Lyndon Nadel writes:
You may have seen this Symbol. It is a Dragon eating his own Tail. It is the ancient symbol for time.
It represents Infinite time, where time begins, ends, and continues all at the same point.
What we live in, is named Infinite time. Meaning that time has already begun, finished and continued down every path.
Every possible scenario that could be carried out in time, has already done so.
Every possible dimension that could exist, has already existed and is currently in existence. All at the same moment.
The time in which we are experiencing at this present moment, has already been concluded, in every possible direction that it could occur.
In one dimension, we all die of a nuclear world war III, in another we all live prosporous lives and man kind reaches out into the stars after conquering human suffering.
It has already happened, and it will happen again.
Lyndon Nadel writes:
We do not have the power to alter or change time; our brains only offer us the opportunity to choose the destiny that we witness.
We pick and choose every moment, which dimension we head down in our finite lives.
Bare in mind, that you are not altering the universe in anyway; you are not changing what will occur; you are merely chosing between the events you wish to witness in this life.
Because every senario has has a different ending, and every moment leads to a different dimension...
Reincarnation Explained. Time is NOT linear.
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6. Anthony Peake takes the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics as a literal truth and merges this idea with the time theory of John William Dunne (1875–1949) which says that the past, present and future all exist simultaneously with the outcome being that people can enter the future in dreams or the past by deja vu.
6. Anthony Peake takes the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics as a literal truth and merges this idea with the time theory of John William Dunne (1875–1949) which says that the past, present and future all exist simultaneously with the outcome being that people can enter the future in dreams or the past by deja vu.
Evidence is neigh impossible to: Establish, the Bible's a made-up loada ol'**** -or- equally, the books are markedly of a different ilk, from all-others. And, if this the case, authentic in their claims about themselves? And back and forth: Historical-made claims, it's rooted in say, Sumerian 'cuneiform material'? Depends on y'decipherment/which expert?; Forged origins? Depends on whose account?
ReplyDeleteI say, 'no', but beyond personal convictions – thus far – nout so-conclusive 'the Bible's faked'. But maybe, 'God-not-Jesus is'..? Regardless. Can't fully-demonstrate, the cats out the scam-so bang-a-gong, but still, the Bible could be… pants. God not in.
Family Guy/show's humour? Makes you laugh? The Bible's a 'saddening bore' to all but few and likely not gona'get much truck with readers-here. F.Guy's not a flesh and blood documentary on the Griffin's but how 'real' it relates? The Bible could have not a jot of textual criticism to answer but still, be all and only more-Shakespere? “All me is saying... is... give God, a chance”. Read and suspend the "no-way's" – just for now – see, if'makes ya... something? Laugh, cry, wonder, puzzle, scream, still-yawn, throw against the wall – but perhaps... get a kick from some-thing, interesting, maybe…? Inspire. Jus' a chance. This is what I hope these posts do? Crits for some air. And other takes from Bible-one, room together.
Ure still high it seems. Quit smoking that, mate!
DeleteThe God of the Christian Bible can't really be a god, since a god would be infallible.
ReplyDeleteYet the Christian god fouled up and because of his/her trickery when dealing with children in the Garden of Eden, he kicked them out of paradise.
He/She then fugged up again when his creations started having too much fun and told Noah to hit the road in an ark while this all loving God destroyed every living thing to teach them a lesson.
Sorry deer, elephants, giraffes, butterflies etc, God must make a point!
Then he/she realized he/she had messed up again with his creations, so he/she sent his/her son down to Earth to get killed as a sacrifice to some vengeful deity to clear humanity of the sin imposed by that god.
Or maybe humans have been dealt s bum hand and got a second-class god instead of the real thing?
Greg, u dont know how rite u are
DeleteGod of the Christian Bible? chrisitans do not need a bible, just follow jesus teaching. this is why they are calling christians not catholic.
DeleteIn bible [old testament] u have many gods, like Yahve, Pan, Amen.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/06/dalai-lama-cult-postmodern-neo-feudalism-and-the-decline-of-the-west/
DeleteI've been to the bottom of the rabbit hole and it's Satan waiting there.
ReplyDeleteAnalyzing mankind's relationship to God, and its perception of such, without noting its having been disinherited by the financial system, which operates through an army of hostile secret agents (Freemasons in large part), strikes me as being seriously 'off'.
ReplyDeleteSome musings on the same theme: http://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com/2016/01/flat-earth.html
ReplyDeleteI am coming to the conclusion that we know almost nothing, but that someone knows a whole lot more.
Top Jewish Russian media baron, founder of RT Russia Today, Mikhail Lesin, has been murdered
ReplyDeleteBut his son, Anton Lessine (name spelling shift) is a high Hollywood producer, accepted into the heart of USA's propaganda empire
So Jewish godfather of Russian propaganda media - has son deep inside core of US propaganda media !
This is only possible if Putin's Russia is 'fake opposition' to USA ... So, here is more proof that Russia-USA 'rivalry' is fake ... And that Putin is NWO ...
Israel the connection of fake 'rivals' US & Russia ... just like 50 years ago during the fake & very arms-business profitable 'Cold War' , fully proved as fake by UK economist Antony Sutton, 'The Best Enemy Money Can Buy' ... since 1950s, Israel transferred tech from US to Moscow to keep Soviets afloat
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Many people are shocked by ongoing timidity of glossy, well-funded RT Russia Today news ... Why is RT so cowardly re the worst US-Nato scandals?
Russia Today RT was founded by leading Jewish-Israeli Russian media baron, Mikhail Lesin ... he was found dead in a Washington DC hotel 4 months ago in November 2015 ... both the US & Russia went along with a 'natural causes' storyline
Suddenly, the US now releases a medical report that Lesin was in fact murdered, brutally beaten to death ... Official Russia remains fairly subdued on the murder of their man in the USA ... A murky situation ... We do know much seemed dodgy about the dead Lesin, e.g., he is accused of setting up former Russian Prosecutor General Yuri Skuratov on video with 2 prostitutes, destroying his career & thus stopping his anti-corruption investigations
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But the real story here is how the son of Russia Today's founder, is accepted as an inner member of the Hollywood propaganda production machine.
Being Jewish & kosher nostra is not enough to explain this
Hollywood instantly blacklists anyone perceived as significant threat to the US regime. It would not be enough that Lesin's son 'Anton Lessine', stays away from controversial topics ... If Russian media were 'anti-US', the other Hollywood moguls would simply fear Lessine even just telling what goes on in Hollywood
But obviously Hollywood & the US regime, have ZERO fear of Russian media
Vladimir Putin is, after all, publicly on record repeatedly, as claiming he believes the 11 Sep 2001 fairly tale
Putin has himself been accused by other Russians - some afterwards murdered - of running Russian false flags against Muslims circa 2000 to justify killing up to 100,000 Chechens, to stop Chechnya's secession, which would be a great loss of oil revenues to Putin & his friends
Many Russians think Putin is NWO ... that is why he always lets US-Nato kill tens of thousands of people, in Libya, in Ukraine etc, 'keep the conflicts going' ... but Putin intervened in Syria, because Assad blocks the Qatari pipeline, that would be a loss of energy revenues for Putin & his friends
"Is there an old man in the sky? The Jewish, Christian and Moslem religions think so."
ReplyDeleteYou seem to have certain idées fixes, Aangirfan. Certain clichés of "eastern" and "western" religion.
Clearly, God is far above such things as gender, but is often compared to a Mother or Father. And God's creations to children.
God's "appearance" can be perceived only through metaphor. By the heart, not by the eye, not even by the mind:
The Ultimate Reality, Eternal, Self-sustaining, All-knowing, Just, Loving, Merciful.
From Chapter 24, "The Light" of the Qur'an:
"God is the light of the heavens and the earth. A metaphor for His light is a niche in which there is a lamp placed in a glass. The glass is like a shining star which is lit from a blessed olive tree that is neither eastern nor western. Its oil almost lights up even though it has not been touched by the fire. It is light upon light."
An all-encompassing blinding radiance, inconceivably far beyond mere human conception.
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Nine-thirteen, personal note:
When I was a little kid, my mother told me not to stare into the sun.
So once when I was six, I did.
Eric Dubay? Is this the one who is telling the truth to the humanity behind a mask of yogi? The one who builds walls of shame on his blog? The one who is accused of only copying ideas from others? The one who is banning everybody from IFERS? The one that is obsessed with "shills" (~sheol) and always says "peace" (~shalom) at the end of emails and posts? The one that is ridiculising with certain acting skills others for their opinions about the shape of the Earth? The one who has a freemason uncle? That Eric Dubay who poses with the triple six on his left eye that most of the "illuminati" servants do...?
ReplyDeleteI would say caution if you quote Eric Dubay.
I told you some weeks ago. Something amazing has happened in the net last year. It all started with a dog cam video to the space. Then people realised NASA and all other space agencies are a fraud. All what we learned at school from Earth and space is a fraud. Probably many things we learned from spirituality and the Creator are also dubious but at the end it turns out that the ancient scriptures like the Puranas, parts of the Bible, old myths and legends are telling us truths we would never have believed before. The world is waking up! Perhaps too late because the Earth is breaking (another issue that the news are avoiding...) but the information is out there. Flat, flat, flat! With ice- ring around! With the ancient paradise in the centre! Ha ha ha, that's why they hid and destroyed ancient maps!!!
Who is in charge of the most important documents of the world?