A Surabaya church lost 41 members in the AirAsia QZ8501 crash
There were 155 passengers on board the AirAsia flight.
41 of the passengers were members of Surabaya's Mawar Sharon Church.
5 of the passengers were members of Surabaya's Bethany Church.
3 of the passengers were part of a family of Christian missionaries from Korea.
A Chinese-Indonesian called Philip Mantofa has been a pastor in Mawar Sharon Church since 1998.
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Army of God - Mawar Sharon Youth
Philip Mantofa began his education in Taiwan, where he was reportedly a delinquent.
A Chinese-Indonesian called Philip Mantofa has been a pastor in Mawar Sharon Church since 1998.
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Army of God - Mawar Sharon Youth
Philip Mantofa began his education in Taiwan, where he was reportedly a delinquent.
Back in Surabaya, where he attended a school called St.Aloysius, Philip continued to be a delinquent.
Philip was then sent to Singapore where he continued to be a delinquent.
He also took an interest in the occult.
Philip was then sent to Canada, where he may or may not have been recruited by the CIA.
(Our source for the recent Robert Finnegan story would appear to have got her facts wrong. We have removed the post. It is not the first time that this source has got things wrong, which makes us somewhat suspicious.)
Things are not very happy in Surabaya. US embassy in Indonesia issues security alert for city of Surabaya - Reuters
(Our source for the recent Robert Finnegan story would appear to have got her facts wrong. We have removed the post. It is not the first time that this source has got things wrong, which makes us somewhat suspicious.)
Things are not very happy in Surabaya. US embassy in Indonesia issues security alert for city of Surabaya - Reuters
The Soedibyo/Cahyono family were 'no shows'.
Soedibyo was an intelligence officer in Surabaya - "Assistant Attorney Intelligence in East Java."
He became the Chief Prosecutor in Jakarta and the Deputy Attorney General for Special Crimes.
Merasa Dapat Mukjizat Besar Tertin.
The Force Commander of the Military Sea Traffic for Surabaya is Col Budi Susanto (centre)
The Ari Cahyono and Chandra Susanto families were booked on flight QZ 8501, but missed the flight.
"This is the third apparent loss of a Malaysia based large passenger jet this year following the unexplained disappearance of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 in March and the Ukrainian military shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH 17 in July over Eastern Ukraine."
On QZ8501, the only British passenger Chi Man Choi (above) was the managing director at Alstom Power, a large energy company which operates in Indonesia.
"Alstom is involved in semiconductor patents."
MH370 was carrying 20 engineers from Freescale Semiconductor Ltd.
Air Asia Flight QZ8501
Alstom is a French company. Alstom to pay record $772 million to settle bribery charges with US - 22 Dec 2014
The US Deputy Chief of Mission Kristen F. Bauer, the US Consul General Joaquin F. Monserrate and the US Military Attaché were in Surabaya on October 7, 2014.
The AirAsia boss Tony Fernandes dumped 944,800 shares in Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd, the organization that provides travel insurance for AirAsia passengers, just days before the disappearance of Flight QZ8501.
On December 26, the Malaysian Insider reported that Fernandes, the founder of Tune Group Sdn Bhd which owns AirAsia, had sold a total of 944,800 shares in Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd, with 850,000 shares being dumped on December 22, and the other 94,800 being sold the day after.
The AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes Dumped Shares Days Before Flight Disappeared .
He warned: "Do not become another victim of MH370".
Ten members of his family, including Ari Cahyono, were due to travel on AirAsia QZ8501.
But they missed the flight.
Police General Unggung Cahyono (above) was, until September 2014, the boss of the police in Surabaya.
The Force Commander of the Military Sea Traffic for Surabaya is Col Budi Susanto (centre)
The Ari Cahyono and Chandra Susanto families were booked on flight QZ 8501, but missed the flight.
Two Families Escape Disaster By Missing Doomed AirAsia flight.
Surabaya.
Allegedly, the CIA recruits for ISIS in Surabaya.
Surabaya.
Allegedly, the CIA recruits for ISIS in Surabaya.
Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razzak at the Marine Corps Base in Hawaii, days before the disappearance of AirAsia QZ8501
Who might be targeting Malaysia?
MOSSAD BUSY IN MALAYSIA? / CIA'S NEXT TARGET - MALAYSIA / MALAYSIAN AIRLINES MH370 - INSIDE JOB
MOSSAD BUSY IN MALAYSIA? / CIA'S NEXT TARGET - MALAYSIA / MALAYSIAN AIRLINES MH370 - INSIDE JOB
On QZ8501, the only British passenger Chi Man Choi (above) was the managing director at Alstom Power, a large energy company which operates in Indonesia.
"Alstom is involved in semiconductor patents."
MH370 was carrying 20 engineers from Freescale Semiconductor Ltd.
Air Asia Flight QZ8501
Alstom is a French company. Alstom to pay record $772 million to settle bribery charges with US - 22 Dec 2014
The US Deputy Chief of Mission Kristen F. Bauer, the US Consul General Joaquin F. Monserrate and the US Military Attaché were in Surabaya on October 7, 2014.
The AirAsia boss Tony Fernandes dumped 944,800 shares in Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd, the organization that provides travel insurance for AirAsia passengers, just days before the disappearance of Flight QZ8501.
On December 26, the Malaysian Insider reported that Fernandes, the founder of Tune Group Sdn Bhd which owns AirAsia, had sold a total of 944,800 shares in Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd, with 850,000 shares being dumped on December 22, and the other 94,800 being sold the day after.
The AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes Dumped Shares Days Before Flight Disappeared .
In the fortnight before AirAsia Flight QZ8501 went missing, a mysterious user of the Chinese social media network Weibo, in dozens of posts, warned Chinese nationals not to use AirAsia.
He warned: "Do not become another victim of MH370".
He reported that AirAsia was about to be targeted by 'powerful' forces which he referred to as the 'black hand'.
Did Mysterious Chinese Blogger Predict Disappearance of AirAsia Flight....
AirAsia flight QZ8501 disappeared during a flight from Surabaya to Singapore.
It disappeared off ADS-B tracking just south of the small island of Belitung.
AirAsia is headquartered in Malaysia.
A reported passenger manifest shows a total of 26 passengers who were scheduled to be aboard but are listed as no-shows.
Huffington Post
There was no distress call.
A relative of someone on the plane reportedly received a message via Blackberry Messenger stating that the plane had landed safely on Belitung.
AirAsia flight QZ8501 disappeared during a flight from Surabaya to Singapore.
It disappeared off ADS-B tracking just south of the small island of Belitung.
AirAsia is headquartered in Malaysia.
A reported passenger manifest shows a total of 26 passengers who were scheduled to be aboard but are listed as no-shows.
Huffington Post
There was no distress call.
A relative of someone on the plane reportedly received a message via Blackberry Messenger stating that the plane had landed safely on Belitung.
Indonesian Ministry of Transportation spokesman JA Barata said he would follow this up.
Kemenhub Cari Kepastian Info BBM Pesawat Mendarat di ... - Translate this page
Detik.com quoted National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) Jakarta chief Sutrisno as saying that the agency’s radar did not detect the flight’s Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT).
Third Malaysia Plane Crash in 2014
The US military in Indonesia.
"Curiously, as in the cases of the previous missing or downed airliners, Flight 370 and Flight 17, there is a British/Australian/Dutch connection to this island, Belitung.
Did AirAsia flight QZ8501 Land at Belitung Island ....
"Belitung is a source of tin, clay, iron ore and silica sands. The Dutch mining company NV Billiton Maatschappij derives its name from the island’s name.
"Billiton merged with BHP in 2001 to form the largest diversified resources company, BHP Billiton...
"In the case of Flight 370, the flight was probably shot down by accident in the South China Sea during a war-games operation featuring participants from many nations including Australia and the United States.
"The search was diverted from that area, an area a witness claimed to have seen a passenger plane on fire in the sky, by military reports from a base operating in Malaysia run by the Australians and the Brits.
"It was diverted off the coast of Australia so they could essentially run the wild goose chase. It’s important to note the general population of that area are wary of U.S. and British military involvement as it is and that accidental downing of a commercial airliner would certainly cause a great deal of backlash for our colonial project over there.
"Of course, the TPP is also something to consider.
"In the case of Flight 17, the downing of that plane centered around the breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine.
"It also just happened to take place right in the middle of a shale gas field being developed by Royal Dutch Shell. They had invested some 10 billion dollars in securing the rights to destroy that ecosystem and the rebellion in the east threatened to scrub their plans.
"Here we are now and it just so happens AirAsia flight QZ8501 may in fact have landed or been forced to land at an airstrip essentially controlled by the Brits, the Dutch and the Aussies."
Did AirAsia flight QZ8501 Land at Belitung Island ....
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Our source for the recent Robert Finnegan story would appear to have got her facts wrong.
We have removed the post.
It is not the first time that this source has got things wrong, which makes us somewhat suspicious.
Kemenhub Cari Kepastian Info BBM Pesawat Mendarat di ... - Translate this page
Detik.com quoted National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) Jakarta chief Sutrisno as saying that the agency’s radar did not detect the flight’s Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT).
Third Malaysia Plane Crash in 2014
The US military in Indonesia.
"Curiously, as in the cases of the previous missing or downed airliners, Flight 370 and Flight 17, there is a British/Australian/Dutch connection to this island, Belitung.
Did AirAsia flight QZ8501 Land at Belitung Island ....
"Belitung is a source of tin, clay, iron ore and silica sands. The Dutch mining company NV Billiton Maatschappij derives its name from the island’s name.
"Billiton merged with BHP in 2001 to form the largest diversified resources company, BHP Billiton...
"In the case of Flight 370, the flight was probably shot down by accident in the South China Sea during a war-games operation featuring participants from many nations including Australia and the United States.
"The search was diverted from that area, an area a witness claimed to have seen a passenger plane on fire in the sky, by military reports from a base operating in Malaysia run by the Australians and the Brits.
"It was diverted off the coast of Australia so they could essentially run the wild goose chase. It’s important to note the general population of that area are wary of U.S. and British military involvement as it is and that accidental downing of a commercial airliner would certainly cause a great deal of backlash for our colonial project over there.
"Of course, the TPP is also something to consider.
"In the case of Flight 17, the downing of that plane centered around the breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine.
"It also just happened to take place right in the middle of a shale gas field being developed by Royal Dutch Shell. They had invested some 10 billion dollars in securing the rights to destroy that ecosystem and the rebellion in the east threatened to scrub their plans.
"Here we are now and it just so happens AirAsia flight QZ8501 may in fact have landed or been forced to land at an airstrip essentially controlled by the Brits, the Dutch and the Aussies."
Did AirAsia flight QZ8501 Land at Belitung Island ....
~~~
Our source for the recent Robert Finnegan story would appear to have got her facts wrong.
We have removed the post.
It is not the first time that this source has got things wrong, which makes us somewhat suspicious.
Malaysia is paying a heavy price for having a PM with balls to say:
ReplyDeleteWe [Muslims] are actually very strong, 1.3 billion people cannot be simply wiped out. The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million [during the Holocaust]. But today the Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them. They invented socialism, communism, human rights and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong so they may enjoy equal rights with others. With these they have now gained control of the most powerful countries. And they, this tiny community, have become a world power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahathir_Mohamad#Middle_East_and_remarks_about_Israel_and_Jews
Greg, You said "today the Jews rule the world by proxy" funny thing is the Jesuits control the Jews read this site •Jesuits Control the Vatican and Are the Real Spiritual Controllers of The NWO http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/vatican_jesuits06.htm
DeleteAs for the Muslims read this site '•Secret Vatican Briefings on The Creation of Prophet Muhammad' http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican33.htm
Maybe they control the Kazhars, and being the true Jews (Semites) the Palestinians.
Deleteone can accuse the Jesuits publicly of all kinds of crimes and machinations, nothing will happen..
DeleteTry publishing a report/finding in Europe, which is not fully supporting the official narrative of Jewish suffering during WWII, then"Justice" will knock at the door within hours.. Many Jesuits in Spain are said to have been Crypto-Jews and they still play a supporting role in the Jew-Matrix.. but after all AIPAC / CRIF and their shills are not Jesuits, are they??
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Caveman You asked AIPAC / CRIF and their shills are not Jesuits, are they?? Go to this site 'Pictures of Papal Infiltration' http://www.spirituallysmart.com/pics.htm Also watch this video 'The Jesuits Control America From Georgetown University' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjTI1Ik94zE Then you'll realize these Jesuits have their slimy little fingers in every nook and cranny of not only America but every other country of the globe!
DeleteThere's a wold of difference between Judaism and Political Zionism. Heck, you don't even have to believe in Judaism to be a Political Zionist. Many Political Zionists are not even remotely Jewish. Judaism was marked for destruction about the time fundamentalist satanic Kabalism took shape which is the exact opposite of Judaism. Those within Judaism who were tempted by occult practices of the surrounding cultures became the vehicle by which secret societies continued right up to today. the Political Zionist movement feeds off the Jews in the same way that the Nazi movement fed off Germans . . .
DeleteTheodor Herzl penned the following truly evil commentary; Source: the Diary of Theodor Herzl, Part 1, P6 ; Quote: It is essential that the sufferings of the Jews become much worse as this will assist in the realization of our plans. I have an excellent idea: I shall induce the anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and opposition of the Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends.
Frankism is at the basis of Political Zionism which 1st expressed itself in the Russian Revolution. Astonishingly:
• Karl Marx real name was: Moses Mordecai Levy
• Vladimir Lenin real name was: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov
• Leon Trotsky real name was: Lev Davidovich Bronstein
All of which are of Jewish lineage !!! So it appears that the House of Rothschild was successful in their old scheme to remove the Romanov Dynasty from power using the Frankish Bolsheviks that they controlled.
Islam's also marked for destruction as within Shia Islam exists a large group known as the Twelvers who regard the Twelfth Imam, Muhammad al-Mahdi, as the last of the Imams. They contend that Muhammad al-Mahdi went into concealment or ghaybah, occultation . . .
Egyptians, Greeks, Eastern Cultures, and Romans infiltrated much of Christianity as the Roman government merged with Christianity. At the heart of this infiltration was Gnosticism means Salvation through knowledge. On the other hand, Christianity means Salvation through Jesus Christ.
The Rosicurcians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism) were a religious order that combined the ancient Mystery School teaching with that of Christianity, and Rosicrucianism was associated with Protestant Lutheranism. At some point the Knights Templar and the Rosicurcians merged and became one. When the Knights Templar was abolished, the Rosicurcians became the key vehicle by which occult doctrines were spread throughout Europe. This has also been the case in much of the Jesuit Order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus) as it led the Counter Reformation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Reformation) which was the period of Catholic revival beginning with the Council of Trent (1545–1563) and ending at the close of the Thirty Years' War (1648) which was a highly destructive war between Protestant and Catholic states in the fragmenting Holy Roman Empire.
So , , , infiltration, miss-leading, and then capitalizing on the resulting irrelevance is proving to be a great way to eliminate all of the worlds great religions. Sounds like a grand application of the Hegelian Dialectic, doesn't it ??? So, , , who wants just one religion for the whole world?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ_7vJIuUc
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http://www.infowars.com/airasia-ceo-dumped-shares-days-before-flight-disappeared/
ReplyDeleteAirAsia CEO Dumped Shares Days Before Flight Disappeared
Move prompts speculation Tony Fernandes had prior knowledge
AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes dumped 944,800 shares in Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd, the organization that provides travel insurance for AirAsia passengers, just days before the disappearance of Flight QZ8501.
On December 26, the Malaysian Insider reported that Fernandes, the founder of Tune Group Sdn Bhd which owns AirAsia, had sold a total of 944,800 shares in Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd, with 850,000 shares being dumped on December 22, and the other 94,800 being sold the day after.
According to its official website, Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd is “an insurance product manager” for AirAsia in which “insurance products are sold to (AirAsia) customers as part of their online booking process.”
The share prices of AirAsia and Tune Insurance Holdings both fell on the first day of trading after the disappearance of Flight QZ8501, with the former shedding 12.9 percent at one point. Tune Insurance Holdings lost 0.6%.
Fernandes decision to dump the shares less than a week before AirAsia Flight QZ8501 disappeared over the Java Sea prompted some to speculate that he may have had prior knowledge of the incident.
“Did Fernandes know his company stock was about to take a hit? The timing is suspicious,” asks Heavy.com, adding, “If so, it indicates knowledge of an impending attack on AirAsia.”
The International Business Times adds that the move has prompted many to voice the theory that Fernandes, “possibly knew about an impending attack on one of the company’s aircraft.”
The story bears some similarity to the unusual market activity in airline stocks that preceded the September 11, 2001 terror attacks. An “extraordinary” amount of ‘put options’ – speculation that a stock price will fall – were placed on United and American Airlines in the days leading up to 9/11.
As we reported earlier, one of the other main unanswered questions surrounding the incident is why a Chinese blogger urged people to avoid AirAsia flights less than two weeks before the disappearance of Flight QZ8501.
Some say the posts, which were made on Chinese social media site Weibo, are a startling indication of prior knowledge whereas others claim the posts were deceptively edited after the crash of Flight QZ8501 to create the impression that its disappearance had been predicted ahead of time.
http://www.infowars.com/did-mysterious-chinese-blogger-predict-disappearance-of-airasia-flight/
ReplyDeleteDid Mysterious Chinese Blogger Predict Disappearance of AirAsia Flight?
Weibo user warned travelers to avoid AirAsia in series of posts
mysterious user of the Chinese social media network Weibo apparently predicted the disappearance on AirAsia Flight QZ8501 almost two weeks before the plane went missing, urgently warning Chinese nationals not to use the airliner in dozens of posts.
The report, carried by the Epoch Times, relates the story of how the individual “repeatedly warned people away from Malaysia Airlines (and) AirAsia.”
“Do not become another victim of MH370,” warned the individual in a December 15 post, adding that AirAsia was about to be targeted by “powerful” forces which he referred to as the “black hand”...
Similar warnings had occour hours before 9-11.
DeleteSome excellent info here Aangirfan, thanks. I liked the Black Hand letter but understand why you chose to ignore it.
ReplyDeleteSomeone in China warned of a AirAisa disaster 13 days before QZ8501 disappeared. : conspiracy
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2qneik/someone_in_china_warned_of_a_airaisa_disaster_13/
Chinese blogger sparks frenzy after 'predicting black hand' was going to bring down AirAsia jet | Daily Mail Online
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2890215/Mysterious-Chinese-blogger-sparks-online-frenzy-predicting-black-hand-going-bring-AirAsia-jet-THIRTEEN-days-one-vanished.html
Air Asia 8501-the Black Hand Strikes Again? | crimesofempire
http://crimesofempire.com/2014/12/29/air-asia-8501-the-black-hand-strikes-again/
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Tony Fernandes AirAsia (Aviation: Malaysia)
He bought the business for a nominal fee three days after the 9/11 attacks. Since then, the dressed-down, easygoing CEO has grown the business to fly to 61 destinations.
CIA Buzzy Krongard and others sold airline stock on put options just days before 9/11.
ReplyDeleteTony Fernandes dumped his AirAsia stock just days before flight QZ 8501 disappeared.
Tony Fernandes bought AirAsia 3 days after 9/11.
Makes me think maybe QZ 8501 was meant to look like a hijacked plane, and be crashed into a building or other structure just like 9/11.
Was the QZ 8501 a false flag that didn't go as planned?
Probably not, but not a theory to be discarded either.
From last week
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Richard Branson once had a bet with Tony Fernandes (who "owns" Queens Park Rangers). Branson lost and eventually paid up.
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ReplyDeleteI saw this here in Thailand on CNN iirc about 9 hrs ago and even my old man (74) knows this story stinks...Even more so when it was said on the clip that they hadn't arranged to be on the flight together - it just happened...That is one third approx of the passengers just happened by accident to come from the same small church.Oh and I think the pastor said that NONE of the relatives wanted to speak to the press, I thought at the time that the "pastor" looked like he drank "sincere beer"...
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PS Thanks for being the first to mention this church baloney aang - next time I see something I'll say something!!
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