Friday 21 July 2023

CIA SAYS MH17 DOWNED BY UKRAINE GOVERNMENT; MH17 ESCORTED BY UKRANIAN FIGHTER JETS


Victims of MH17 

A new BBC documentary says that the CIA may have put a bomb on board the Malaysian Airlines MH17 Boeing 777 which came down over Ukraine in 2014.

Who Shot Down MH17? - BBC Two, May 3 2016, 9pm.

According to the documentary, private investigator Sergey Sokolov got more than 100 of his agents to investigate the site and examine evidence.

He said they found no shrapnel from a Buk missile.

The official report said that MH17 was downed by a Russian-made Buk missile.

MH17: Ukrainian fighter jet shot Malaysia Airlines plane, BBC documentary claims / dailymail. /

Sokolov said he was 'sold' a phone intercept between two CIA agents that suggests they masterminded the planting of two bombs on MH-17.

Sokolov claimed that the CIA, helped by the Ukrainian secret service and the Dutch security service, placed the bombs on the plane in Holland.

He said: 'This terrorist act was a pretext for firstly intensifying sanctions on Russia, secondly to show the world that Russia is a barbarian country and thirdly to strengthen the presence of Nato in Europe, particularly Ukraine.'

 BBC documentary claims Does voice recording suggest bomb.

The BBC documentary also says that MH17 may have been downed by a Ukraine government fighter plane.

The CIA originally said that MH17 was downed by a Ukraine government fighter plane.

It was also reported that an 'ISRAELI missile downed MH17'

Below, is what we wrote in an earlier post:


'MH17 was first hit by a Ukrainian government fighter jet.'


A part of MH17 leftside cockpit cabin appears to show 20mm machine-gun holes?

1. Malaysian Airlines say that Ukrainian Air Traffic Control ordered MH17 off of its original flight path and into the war zone.




2. On July 16th, the Ukrainian Army positioned 3-4 anti-aircraft BUK M1 SAM missile batteries in the immediate vicinity of the MH17 crash site.

3. The Ukrainian Army’s radio location traffic near Donetsk peaked on the 16th and 17th.

The same is not true for the 'rebels'.

4. On July 17th, around the time that MH17 was downed, a Ukrainian Fighter Jet appears on radar, trailing MH17 at same altitude.

MH17: US-Kiev cover-up of failed false flag operation. - 21stcenturywire.com


A Ukrainian fighter jet, which carries air-to-air missiles.

5. US-NATO forces were conducting an electronic warfare exercise in the area on July 17th.

The US military has equipment that can be used to take control of a Boeing jet while it is in flight.


Child murdered by the US military. en.wikipedia.org.

6. On July 23rd, Anna-News published an interview with retired Russian Air Force colonel Aleksand Zhilin.

According to Zhilin, the Ukrainian jet fighter fired a missile at MH17.

MH17 was hit, but managed to stay in the air.

The US had hoped to crash MH17 in an area where its forces were in control.

The US and its puppets in the Ukrainian government then downed MH17 with a BUK missile fired from the ground.


Innocent civilians murdered by the UK military. www.telegraph.co.uk.

7. Carlos, a Spanish air-traffic controller working for the Ukraine government, has confirmed that the Ukraine government brought down MH17.

8. The US had a satellite positioned over Eastern Europe for 1-2 hours, and directly over Donetsk in eastern Ukraine around the time MH17 came down.

Full details here: MH17: US-Kiev cover-up of failed false flag operation. - 21stcenturywire.com


Two Jews

Ihor Kolomoisky is the Kosher Nostra kingpin who reportedly downed MH17 in the Ukraine.

Kolomoisky is linked to Joe Biden and John Kerry through the oil and gas company Burisma Holdings.

Biden's Son, Kerry Family Friend Join Ukrainian Gas ....

Kolomoisky is reportedly involved in child sex trafficking and human organ trafficking.

Kolomoisky banks in Cyprus, a base of the Kosher Nostra.


MH17: Young woman in Ukraine allegedly posts picture using mascara looted from crash site...

Above we see Yekaterina Parkhomenko who claims to be a pro-Russian separatist in the Ukraine.

She posted this photo of herself on Instagram.

She states that she is posing with mascara stolen from a victim of the MH17 plane crash.

Silvija Germek points out that Yekaterina Parkhomenko comes from a very famous zionist blood line that is strongly anti-Russia.


Adam Parkhomenko, a top Hilary Clinton Jew.

Hillary Clinton's 'Super-PAC man' is Adam Parkhomenko.



"When The Independent visited the site where the image was taken and showed it to local people, they claimed they had seen no such missile truck and dismissed the image as a hoax.

"'All the Ukrainian media is lying,' said one man, Andrei Sushparnov. 'We have no missiles. If we did, would the Ukrainians be bombing our cities?'"

Was a Russian-made missile really parked here?



Reportedly, this is the man who may have brought down MH17.

This is Ihor Kolomoisky, a Ukrainian-Israeli 'mafia boss'.

He is linked to the US Vice President, Joe Biden.


Ihor Kolomoisky, left, one of the Jews who now run Ukraine.

According to Wayne MADSEN:

(Wayne Madsen - MH-17)

Ihor Kolomoisky has his own army and it has the BUK missiles allegedly used in the downing of MH-17.

Kolomoisky has strong connections inside Kiev's Borispol International Airport, where it has been reported that Ukrainian Interior Ministry troops stormed the air traffic control tower shortly before MH-17 was shot down.


Arse

The Interior Minister is Arsen Avakov, who is a friend of Kolomoisky.

Kolomoisky's army includes neo-Nazi units from west Ukraine and ex-Israel Defense Force Blue Helmet commandos.



Some of the Georgians who serve in Kolomoisky's Army have reportedly been trained in the use of BUK missile systems...

Kolomoisky commands his army from Switzerland.

Kolomoisky has indirect access to the top people in the US Department of Defense, NATO, and the CIA.

 
Kolomoisky

The presence of a Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 in Tel Aviv, the mysterious disappearance of a second Malaysian Boeing 777 on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, and the attack on yet a third Amsterdam-to-Kuala Lumpur Malaysian Boeing 777 over eastern Ukraine may be more than coincidental.



Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport is a centre for Israeli Mossad activity in Western Europe.

Israeli-owned ICTS controls the security at Schiphol for passengers and cargo.

March 2014 - Hacked email from a US spy suggesting a US false flag attack to be blamed on Russia.

Remember the hacked emails from the US Army Attache at the US Embassy in Kiev telling the Ukraine Military to "Create a False Flag to Blame on Russia"

sherriequestioningall.blogspot-hacked-emails-in-march


NATO war games, next to Ukraine, July 2014.

Nato has been firing rockets next to the Ukraine.

On 17 July, seven NATO countries completed military exercises in the Black Sea, next to Ukraine.

NATO Black Sea War Games End - Voice of America

On 17 July, MH17 was downed, apparently by elements of the Ukrainian government.



According to Wayne MADSEN:

(Wayne Madsen - MH-17)

The 10-day NATO exercise code named BREEZE 2014 included the use of electronic warfare and electronic intelligence aircraft...

NATO ships and aircraft had the Donetsk and Luhansk regions under total radar and electronic surveillance...

The U.S. Army has revealed that the exercise involved 'commercial traffic monitoring'...

It can be assumed this included monitoring MH-17...

200 U.S. Army personnel were in Ukraine during the time of the MH-17 fly-over.

They were participating in NATO exercise RAPID TRIDENT II. 



Ukraine military trucks spotted transporting three BUK's out of Donetsk Republic 19-07-14 after the shooting down of Malaysia flight MH17

Plates reveal trucks originate from Ukraine military base in Zaporizhia Oblast.

Ukrainian license plates - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_...



Ukrainian government forces with Buk anti-aircraft missile launchers in Eastern Ukraine - July 4, 2014. 




Dr. Jason Kissner (above), Associate Professor of Criminology at California State University, looks at the evidence on MH17:

Malaysian Airlines MH370 and MH17. A Criminologist Questions: What are the Probabilities? Is it a Mere Coincidence?

1. With both MH370 and BH17, there is evidence that contact with the planes was lost some time before the planes suffered their catastrophies.

2. With both MH370 and BH17, the planes diverted off their official routes.

3. The MH17 crash shares an anniversary with the demise of TWA 800, which Jack Cashill has compellingly argued was brought down by a missile on July 17, 1996 and subsequently covered up by the US government.

The maiden flight of MH17 occurred in 1997 on July 17.

(It should also be noted that Israel's attack on Gaza began on 17 July at exactly the same time as MH17 came down)


"Israel arranged for the shooting down of MH17 at 14:15 hours UTC. Israeli began its assault on Gaza at 14:00 hours UTC."

5. There is evidence at YouTube that seems to indicate that CNN recently used footage of a helicopter downing in Syria and represented it as depicting the downing of a helicopter, by pro-Russian forces, in the Ukraine.

6. If you flip a coin twice, four possible results, in terms of heads and tails, can occur, and each has an equal likelihood of occurring (HH, HT, TH, TT).

In the cases of MH 370 and MH 17 we might not be dealing with a 'fair coin.'

7. Was Malaysia Airlines in particular targeted on July 17, and, if so, what ragtag rebel would have even been in a position to do that (especially given the route alteration, if true)...



Why has Israel targeted Malaysia?

The Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia) Tribunal found Israel Guilty of Crimes against humanity.



CIA analysts have pointed out that U.S. satellite reconnaissance photos show that the missile that brought down Flight MH17 was fired by Ukrainian troops from a government battery, not by ethnic Russian rebels.

Airline Horror Spurs New Rush to Judgment / Ukrainian Goulash: served up by Robert Parry


Above, we see a protest in London against the lies spread by the BBC.

At the time when MH17 was hit, NATO and its friends were carrying out a 'war games' exercise.

"There were a number of 'critical radar anomalies' occurring over EUROCONTROL zones in Central Europe."

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"Israel arranged for the shooting down of MH17 at 14:15 hours.

"Israeli began its assault on Gaza at 14:00 hours."

The shooting down of MH17 looks like it was arranged to distract attention away from Israel's mass slaughter of innocent women and children in Gaza.



Above, we see a child murdered by the Jewish-run government of Ukraine.

The murder took place when the Ukrainian military recently recaptured Slavyansk from the separatists.


A Ukrainian government Buk battery radar was operational when the Malaysian plane was downed.

The Russian Defense Ministry has said that neither the Buk missile defense system, nor any other military equipment, has crossed the Russian border into Ukraine.

Such border crossings “can’t be performed in secrecy,” the official representative for the Russian Defense Ministry told journalists in Moscow.

Ukrainian Buk battery radar was operational when Malaysian plane downed

The videos containing these alleged conversation by 'the Ukranian rebels' were all made well before the plane was shot down. 




Malaysia MH17 crash: 10 questions Russia wants Ukraine to answer

Takto vraj vyzela tá stránka s Tým Carlosom: http://aanirfan.blogspot.hu/2014/07/a ids-res…



Above are "tweets by a Spanish Air traffic controller at Kiev Airport."

The Spanish air controller suggests that the order to down MH17 came from the Ukranian Ministry of the Interior.

(Which may or may not be run by Mossad and its friends)

The Spanish air controller also said that the MH17 flight was escorted by Ukrainian fighter jets minutes before it was downed. 

The presence of the Ukraine fighter jets reported by the Spanish air traffic controller was confirmed by eyewitness reports in the Donetsk region:

2 Ukrainian fighters seen following Malaysian jet.

Source: Tweets by Spanish Air Controller - @spainbuca

10:21 – 17 de jul. de 2014

Kiev Authorities, trying to make it look like an attack by pro-Russians.

10:25 – 17 de jul. de 2014

[Miitary] has taken control of Air Traffic Control in Kiev.

10:35 – 17 de jul. de 2014

They are threatening us in the control tower at Kiev airport.

11:48 – 17 de jul. de 2014 

The B777 plane flew escorted by Ukraine jet fighter until 2 minutes before disappearing from the radar.

11:54 – 17 de jul. de 2014

2 jet fighters flew very close minutes before; wasn’t downed by a fighter.

12:01 – 17 de jul. de 2014

Shot down by Kiev. Here we know it and military air traffic control also.


13:31 – 17 de jul. de 2014

Military confirm It was Ukraine, but still does not know where the order came from.

15:26 – 17 de jul. de 2014 

The report indicates where the missile had come out [from], and specified it is not from the rebel areas.

16:06 – 17 de jul. de 2014
Military commanders here (ATC) control tower, confirm that the missile is from the Ukranian army.



Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until 3 minutes before it disappeared from radar.

Radar records were immediately confiscated after MH17 had been shot down.

Ukrainian military air traffic controllers, in internal communication, acknowledged that the Ukrainian military was involved.

Some Ukranian military chatter said they did not know where the order to shoot down the plane originated from.

Ukrainian millitary escorted B777 until 3 minutes before ... / 2 Ukrainian Fighter Jets Escorted MH17 before it was Shot Down

On 16 July 2014, the Ukrainian military deployed a battery of Buk anti-aircraft missile systems near Donetsk, where the Malaysian plane came down. 

Malaysia Airlines plane crashes in Ukraine

Putin May Have Been the Target of the Plane Shot Down.


MH17 diverted?

While the media is concentrating on the Malaysian airline, Israel starts its Gaza ground offensive.

The Ukraine is currently ruled by Jewish Ukranians, in alliance with Nazi Ukrainians.

From Jim Stone's blog:

"Strong empirical evidence Israel shot down plane

"Plane shoot down: approximately 14:15 UTC. Israeli assault on Gaza: 14:00 UTC. See a connection there?"

Goon Squad: Malaysian Air Flight 17 flight path REROUTED.


Kid hit by the Israelis in July 2014. 

One Palestinian Child has been Killed by Israel Every 3 Days for the Past 13 Years.

One Palestinian Child has been Killed by Israel Every 3 days ...



Kid hit by the Israelis in July 2014. 

One Palestinian Child has been Killed by Israel Every 3 Days for the Past 13 Years.




Kids killed by the Israelis in July 2014. 

One Palestinian Child has been Killed by Israel Every 3 Days for the Past 13 Years.


 
Kid hit by the Israelis in July 2014. 

Let us remember:

The KIDNAPPING OF THE ISRAELI TEENS was fake.


France's Jewish-controlled government has banned protests against Israeli action in Palestine.

'Socialist' Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said mass demonstrations planned for the weekend should be halted.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/


Fake video.

"A spectral and time analysis has showed that the dialog was cut into pieces and then assembled. Short pauses in the tape are very indicative: the audio file has preserved time marks which show that the dialog was assembled from various episodes."

Kiev’s evidence of militia’s responsibility for airliner crash faked - expert.

The videos containing these alleged conversation by 'the Ukranian rebels' were all made well before the plane was shot down. 


Below is a screenshot from a piece of forensic software showing the creation date for each video uploaded to the SSU youtube account..



UTC 2014-07-16 20:32 is over 18 hours before the MH17 disaster.

Nationalities of those on MH 17

No Americans Or Israelis On Doomed Flt.17, 9M-MRC

0 Israelis

0 Americans (or possibly one)

· 189 Netherlands

· 44 Malaysia

· 27 Australia

· 12 Indonensia

· 9 UK

· 4 Belgium

· 4 Germany

· 3 Philippines

· 1 Canada

· 1 New Zealand

Four passengers’ nationalities remain to be verified.



Top AIDS researchers have been killed in the Malaysia Airlines crash in Ukraine.

The researchers had been heading to Australia for a conference.

"A number of colleagues and friends en route to attend the 20th International AIDS Conference taking place in Melbourne, Australia, were on board the Malaysia Airlines MH17 flight that has crashed over Ukraine," Michael Kessler of the International AIDS Society (IAS) said in a statement.

16 years ago, AIDS research pioneer Jonathan Mann also died in a plane crash.

Crash claims top AIDS researchers heading to Melbourne: reports Sydney Morning Herald


The US military also tortures and kills innocent kids.

False Flag Attacks in Argentina: 1992 and 1994.

Mossad asset Pope Francis demands justice for 'victims' of Mossad false flag attack on Jewish centre.






59 comments:

  1. Hello Aangirfan,
    This is being given the full psyop treatment. Propaganda is spewing forth at full burst. ABC news simply one ridiculous and laughable statement after another without interruption. We are hearing phrases such as "Most Australians to die in a Terror attack since the Bali bombing", We are also told "they were "murdered" by "Russian terrorists", They have solved every aspect of the case in the first day according to their propaganda needs. It is very suspicious.
    Also an amazing coincidence to have two Malaysian Airlines jets involved in these incidents is an amazing coincidence. It may only be that.
    Everything that is said about MH17 could be said about the USS Vincennes downing of Iranian Airlines Flight 655 in the late 1980's. Does anyone even need to check to see if our yellow media applied any of the scarlet language they are using that day when the exact same crime was committed by their beloved Americans? We all know that the evil bastards would have tried to blame the Iranians and if that didn't work out they would simply ignore the story.
    Remember these same presstitutes report on the daily massacres in Gaza by the criminals of the IDF.without blinking an eyelid. Only when the other side can be blamed do they ever dare breathe the phrase "War Crimes Trial",and they actually expect us not to notice.

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    1. Well stated.
      MH17 evidence will be pushed in over the propaganda that engulfed the murder of our beloved Australians that day.

      The world is changing this way, in the new information age.
      Amateur Journalism/Researchers on par with professionalism at its best.

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  2. 2 Ukrainian Fighter Jets Escorted MH17 before it was Shot Down

    http://bodhita.com/2-ukrainian-fighter-jets-escorted-mh17-before-shooting-it-down/

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  3. http://www.globalresearch.ca/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/5391888

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  4. Malaysian Air Flight 17 flight path REROUTED..by Whom and for Whom?
    Rerouted, sending it right over the conflict, convenient for Zionist NWO war mongers.

    http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2014/07/malaysian-air-flight-17-flight-path.html

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  5. An airliner flying where it should not be- the AbelDanger site shows SERCO can override the Red Switch Network directly controlled by the White House-ie any order President could give in an emergency could be stopped, or a false one given- could easily do that to a flight control system- Abel Danger also uncovered Boeing's Uninterruptible Auto Pilot-BUAP- which has been surreptitiously installed on all it's planes since 1995- and other commercial airliners since then- this cast a new light on 9/11 for me- but some interesting info which applies to this and other mysteries...SERCO- biggest conspiracy you never heard of-.AbelDanger blows the lid off-

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    1. AbelDanger.net gives the extensive history of this device and it's use in False Flag attacks

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  6. I see @spainbuca has now disappeared from twitter. Interesting.

    You can still access it via internet caches though.

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  7. Adding to my previous comments, like in Sandy Hook, many victims, specially female are very very photogenic or beautiful (Sophie Charlotte,Fatima Dyczynski, Karlijn Keijzer, Elaine Teoh, Shazana Salleh,...) just a coincidence? As I reviewed the same pictures in a bigger size in the Daily Mail, all looks more fishy to me: on some pictures is all to ashes, on others perfectly preserved personal belongings...and a soldier is smiling to the camera! How convenient for the news to bury the paedophile scandal and the hell that Palestinians and other civilians around the world are going through.

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  8. What about the cargo the plane was carrying Dozens of blood drained corpses along with bags of infected blood, was it downed because it might have been used to spread a deadly infection around Asia resulting in a senario of killing tens of thousands of people , watch out for any pandemic in that region in the next few weeks.

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  9. Hello Aangirfan and readers,

    Everytime there is a human catastrophe that smells like a hoax with actors and weird identities, they show pictures that are strange as well. First, like in the 11-M bombings, like the 9/11, and I think other cases too, passports and ID papers appear to be bombing-resistant. In all the news with this MH17 we can see the passports without any scratcher. And then observe at the pictures from the passagers belongings, for example The Guardian has two that look more like an amateur photographer collage: Dominique Faget captured a spot with a perfectly conserved children drawing, a few 20 notes, a tv remote control, all without any burn, stain or damage, what a coincidence. Oh, and what about the picture with the suitcases where the red one was opened by zip, the intact I love Amsterdam T-shirt (again like with Lee Rigbee Help for Heroes...) and a pixelated rectangle in the middle?...

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/ukraine-plane-crash-site-mh17

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    1. I think they are Euro notes - otherwise i agree entirely. Have we collectively lost our abiity to see through staged photos such as these which could have been assembled anywhere and any time??

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  10. http://yle.fi/uutiset/daily_finnish_customs_intercepted_ukraine-bound_missile_components/7364587

    http://yle.fi/uutiset/daily_reports_ukraine_missile_shipment_from_vietnam/7365197

    f-land has history of this & probably deals with nato even though we are not a member. no chance russians would try this out through f-land (tight and high tech border controls). gitmo prisoners were transferred through finland years ago, illegally.

    http://yle.fi/uutiset/customs_investigate_military_shipment_to_syria_via_finland/6497594

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  11. Hi Aangirfan,

    we know that:
    -the 16th July 4 Palestinian boys are killed by Israel missiles on the beach. The media (90% or more controlled by jews) almost hide this, even after massive protests.
    -the same day just a few hours after this sad news are known to the world, an assistant professor called Lee Schaefer (jewish?)publishes an " interesting discovery" : that children playing outdoors are healthier (wow, what a discovery...)
    -and on the next day, of course Reuters, by Ronnie Cohen (jewish?), publishes the study

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/17/us-kids-outdoors-fitness-idUSKBN0FM1UL20140717

    don't you see how out of taste, how cruel this is when those little kids died playing football outdoors? Of course L.Schaefer on his twitter comments is mute on the 16th and this terrible case, no word.
    Yahoo news (the name says it all..Yah-ve, Netany...) like obedient NWO slaves underline the study as well and hide the tragedy in Palestine.

    Playing outside is becoming more difficult everyday in many countries for many reasons. Too many abductions, too many paedos, too many dangerous dogs, racismus, bullying, vandals in the parks, weapons. Where are the children protectors now, who is working for their rights?

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  12. In a statement here, MAS explained that MH17 had initially filed a flight plan requesting to fly at 35,000 feet above Ukrainian territory, which it described as close to the “optimum altitude”.

    “However, an aircraft’s altitude in flight is determined by air traffic control on the ground.

    “Upon entering Ukrainian airspace, MH17 was instructed by Ukrainian air traffic control to fly at 33,000 feet,” the national carrier said.

    http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/ukraine-traffic-controllers-instructed-mh17-to-fly-lower-mas-says

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  13. BUSTED! Ukraine Caught Trying to 'Frame Russia' for Shooting Down Malaysia Flight MH17!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MrASx-RiM

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  14. Hello everyone! Have you noticed that there are two names on the passenger list of Flight MH 17 that are missing. Shazana Salleh and Charlotte Sophie are not there but we saw their passports from the crash site. Could someone else check it out? To make sure. Maybe i just missed their names.

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    1. At least one, Shazana Salleh, was a stewardess and would not, therefore, have been on the passenger list.

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    2. CanSpeccy is correct, and her name has been released as on the crew list. The full name given as NUR SHAZANA BINTI MOHAMED SALLEH.

      As for Charlotte Sophie. I haven't been able to find that, though that looks like an incomplete name in the first place. Where is the original source?

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    3. Hi, you can find a picture of her passport in google images. Her name is Sophie Charlotte van der Meer.

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    4. Charlotte Sophie Van Der Meer. Saw her passport, dutch, lovely girl

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  15. May be something weird going on :

    Regarding MH17 crash:

    1) A tragedy occurred when Russian President was busy in BRICS summit. what a coincidence?..No comment from my side

    2) Every civilian airliner transmits a frequency in a different mode from military frequency may be mode 3 or 2 ..I don't know ...which tells that I am civilian aircraft to any radar.let it be in war zone or extreme warfare zone......Now can anybody tell be why a rebel or any group which has Buk missiles equipped with radar will still fire a missile into a plane which transmitting a frequency of commercial airline??

    3) Imagine now when a Ukraine military plane brought down by Pro -Russian rebels in Ukraine few days before ........lot of airliners flew above that route...but no problem registered.....no confusion occurred why?....I understand some airlines changed their flight routes which is a good decision but why in the week when Russian President was busy with BRICS summit that this tragedy occurred?

    4) what is the real cause ? is it a Global conspiracy ? whether the innocent people of MH-17 were just made as a guinea pig to suffer so that some global warfare can continue though may not be military but politically like natural resources War between US and Russia!!!...

    Who knows the real hard truth?

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  16. Once you see the same pattern of behavior, always linked to False Flag terrorism and other "big lies". It becomes completely obvious when they try the same tactics they always use when deploying "the Big Lie
    BBC Russia correspondent already describes as "conspiracy theories" any idea that this crime was committed by any other than the appointed patsy. It's a sick obvious joke, these fools are toiling for psychopaths intent on mass murder and everyday they look to their audience, smile, and then they begin to lie. If this was anything other than a complete false flag frame up there would be no need for the BBC to describe other versions as conspiracy theories-the very idea that the Ukraine military, incontestably in possession of these weapons systems which were incontestably deployed for no apparent reason in Eastern Ukraine and yet we should never for a moment consider the possibility that the people who had the means, motive and opportunity could have done it. It is 100% a false flag and their childish lies make it totally obvious.
    This is what the demons do when they feel cornered. The heat is about to come down on the evil ones on both sides of the Atlantic for completely different reasons. What is written on the Coleman Experience is not rhetoric. They are absolutely busted and completely f...ed. The child abuse issues in the UK are not going to go away quietly. Many more will be exposed even as other names remain covered up.
    In the US they are stone cold busted that New York was attacked using nuclear devices stolen from the US, redirected to Tel Aviv, and returned to New York City. This is not anti Israel rhetoric. Elements within the US government know that Israeli intelligence officers, many employed by Urban Moving Systems, attacked the entire WTC complex with small emplaced and vehicle borne Nuclear weapons on September 11th. The operation is not attributed to Israel, but to "the Shadow Government", yet the fact remains that the New York terror attacks, the bombing and destruction of the WTC was conducted at least in part, by serving Israeli intelligence officers, known and identified as such by the US gov. No amount of media ownership or bullshit Hollywood movies about "Arab terrorists" is going to be able to fix this. Zionism is about to be exposed as the New World Order's evil tool, that is all it has ever been. They hate Jews just like they hate everyone else if you read their literature. They are satanists, or luciferians if you prefer. All nations and other identities are merely a mask .

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  17. All we need to keep in mind is that US-NATO have long planned this strategy. Embroiling Russia in a new cold war is vital to their interests. They are pretty much hoping for a replay of Afghanistan in locking Russia into the chaos so a blatant false flag is just another tactic along the road to Middle East conquest and asymmetric warfare against Eurasia.

    Putin has to be very, very careful now and I suspect the longer he holds out against these psychopathic provocations the better is the possibility that their strategy will begin to crack. These people are getting desperate since they are behind schedule on their objectives. These next few weeks are going to be crucial. I wouldn't mind betting that if Putin doesn't respond you're going to see a nuclear-based false flag in Ukraine or US-NATO allied country. When a wild animal is cornered it will lash out. These people don't think like those with conscience thus they have no limits at all as to what they are prepared to do.

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    1. Sir, are you the person behind the website INFRAKSHUN? If so, let me thank you for your outstanding work- and urge you to return to it ASAP- that site is a treasure trove of documented referenced factual data, and everyone ought to visit it- I found your series "The Z Factor" most illuminating......but there are loads of great stuff there- don't miss it, people-

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    2. A treasure trove of pure unadulterated lunacy more like it...

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  18. I saw two strange pictures from this same "crash" with corpses. On one a body, rather bloated and with black lips which could be connected to rumours saying the bodies where already dead. On the other image, I can't find the link, sorry, are several bodies together without burns, without blood, hair in perfect condition.
    I think it might be the old disappeared plane. Explosion or not in the air, the pictures show that part of the plane was burned on the ground (all melted with soil in a vast area) but just 3 or 4 parts of the wreckage save + some personal belongings where separated to make the pictures. and the passports in mint condition.
    No ambulances in the scene, just in remote case for helping possible survivors? Just 1 fire engine, 5 workers in charge of the bodies? 5 soldiers and some women in houseslippers through burning ashes? 15 teddybears, candles and bought flowers in an abandoned rural area? ! Fake pictures. Montage with real corpses who knows where from.
    Planned to divide attention -made in jewish controlled media-, so they finish their extermination in Gaza. They are hiding images and videos from people on the streets claiming for justice, help for Palestine.


    this is a link to a picture with a corpse on the "crash"
    http://sports.ndtv.com/football/news/227072-malaysia-airlines-mh17-two-newcastle-fans-killed-in-ukraine-crash

    this is a video from January, when Christine Lagarde is insisting on the number seven (777, MH17, 17.7,..). The new prophets of our times...that plan their prophecies in advance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYmViPTndxw

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  19. Was MH17 Sabotaged By An Israeli Security Team At Amsterdam Schiphol Airport?

    http://www.rense.com/general96/MH17.html

    Heres a video of the crash... right wing (engine) on fire, plane spinning out of control, plummeting...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUKqFo29EDYngB8QcWEJ3Smg&v=MaeSwhen4mQ#t=54

    I would think Boeing (with known links to MI6 and Mossad) is in the frame for this aswell

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    1. Sorry Sir, this is not MH17 (B777) but an Antonov 26 that downed May 2014

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  20. That was a lesson from Israel to Malaysia:
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/kuala-lumpur-tribunal-finds-israel-guilty-of-crimes-against-humanity-genocide/5359404

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  21. It wasn't shot down. Mossad bomb on board. Spanish air traffic controller = bogus player.

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    1. Bomb theory can not be taken into consideration until black box examination. Explosion of the bomb inside plane has different sound than missile detonation.

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  22. Worst of all they won't stop. Unnecessary hatred towards the wrong. Why do people allow these fake leaders to rule knowing they ain't worth a shit if we all stop supporting the theatrics. We should be angry for being tools for so long.

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  23. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israel-using-flechette-shells-in-gaza

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  24. http://www.arabworld360.info/2014/07/massacres-have-become-telegenically.html#.U8zzFkCXJFi

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  25. N0.

    N0 "they"
    W0N'T STOP

    jews

    jews are SLAUGHTERING innocents

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    1. Thats terrible. Someone should alert the jews so they can get organized and stop this evil plan. Its hard to believe with all their brilliance they havent twigged onto this yet.

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    2. The question is if jews knew that they were used during centuries by a jew illuminati or satanic elite, why did they never complained enough, why did they not try harder to let the world know and fight against them. Instead of that it looks like they all had very easy lives, receiving compensations, easy access to careers with influences.

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    3. I apologize. I should have used the snark tags to identify my biting sarcasm.

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    4. Not Jews, Zionists but true aliens. If you were to reduce your cattle, it is no big deal because you consider those animals minor, not your kind. For them it is no problem killing a big number of civilians, to endorse vicious treatments such as ECT or transorbital lobotomy, inserting live cancer causing viruses into a vaccine, drugging children with a designer amphetamine (for your amusement you can add to this list almost infinitum). Flip the coin around, if you would do these things, what sanctions would you get? :D What about medical drugs that are inevitably a liver toxins, or vitamins that they made as unavailable as possible? If one looks like a human, it does not mean that that person considers you as an equal person for them, person of they own kind. People around a psychiatrist would spun. This is the main reason why politics fails. A social person considers others also social persons. They necessarily do not seek higher positions because they trust others. Antisocial seeks higher positions because they afraid of social people. That NSA was established for the surveillance of social people, not possible terrorist that are their own kind. For they already know what terrorists are and where they coming from. :)

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  26. "CIA analysts have pointed out that U.S. satellite reconnaissance photos show that the missile that brought down Flight MH17 was fired by Ukrainian troops from a government battery, not by ethnic Russian rebels."

    Where exactly did this piece of info come from?

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  27. I heard this airline might be the missing Malaysia flight 370, sounds like they're running out of ideas and super sloppy!

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  28. http://www.globalresearch.ca/chile-cuts-ties-with-israel/5392422

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  29. http://youtu.be/kdDF8hIf2M4

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  30. Malaysia plane crash in Ukraine – Astrological Background
    http://theastrologysoftware.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/malaysia-plane-crash-in-ukraine-horoscope-17th-july-2014/

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  31. Russian Ministry of Defence provides proof of MH17 Crash exposes Ukraine Military

    http://bodhita.com/russian-ministry-of-defence-provides-proof-of-mh17-crash-exposes-ukraine-military/

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  32. Flight MH-17 Black Boxes To Be Analyzed In "Impartial" London
    07/22/2014

    Now that the black boxes from flight MH-17 have been handed over by the Ukraine separatists to Malaysian authorities (somewhat denting the credibility of the fabricated Ukrainian YouTube clip in which the rebels were "instructed" by Moscow to hide the black boxes), there was one question: which impartial entity and/or country would be tasked with an objective retrieval and analysis of the contents. A little while ago we got the answer courtesy of none other than UK Prime Minister David Cameron:

    David Cameron ✔ @David_Cameron

    We've agreed Dutch request for air accident investigators at Farnborough to retrieve data from #MH17 black boxes for international analysis.
    10:23 AM - 22 Jul 2014

    So the Dutch are incapable of analyzing black boxes on their own and needed London's help? Curious.

    Continues:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-22/mh-17-black-boxes-will-be-analyzed-uk-whose-prime-minister-compares-russian-aggressi

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  33. MH 17 1st Flight: 17 July 1997

    MH 17 Last Flight: 17 July 2014

    Total: 17 Years.

    http://forum.flightradar24.com/threads/7777-Malaysian-B777-MH17-crash-poss-shot-down

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  34. Just out of interest Aang... What do you know of
    a) Welbeck Military College, UK
    b) London school of Journalism and connections to'British Intel (recruitment etc.)
    Shirlz

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  35. These creatures communicate through symbols, numbers and dates and 17th July is part of the 5 leap days that were added in the ancient Egyptian calendar to obtain a full 365-day year and which were commemorated as the birthdays of their deities: 14th July was the birthday of Osiris, 15th July that of Horus, 16th July that of Seth, 17th July that of Isis and 18th July was the birthday of Nephtys. Strange coincidence that they have recently created this terrorist group called ISIS. Of course the name of the goddess is also included in Isis-Ra-El

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  36. Everybody on twitter and other social media: Plead Newspapers and individual reporters to look into BREEZE2014 and ask Nato to release their intel! They have been scanning the area heavily. They must have data that needs to be released.

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  37. MH17 Chameleon: Operation Rapid Trident II
    http://greatgameindia.com/mh17-chameleon-operation-rapid-trident-ii/

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  38. http://www.globalresearch.ca/another-massacre-in-gaza-this-time-in-khan-younis/5392829

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  39. http://www.maxkeiser.com/2014/07/weeks-ago-they-wanted-to-provoke-the-militia-to-shoot-at-the-passenger-plane-there-would-be-a-global-catastrophe-civilians-would-die/

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  40. by deception thou shalt wage war

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  41. All of you are a bunch of anti semantic pro fucked up conspiracy theory flogs. You have way too much time on your hands.

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  42. http://albainternazionale.blogspot.it/2015/10/aggiornamenti-dal-fronte-siriano.html

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  43. https://youtu.be/q__8ikQzqxI

    UKR Leaks. Well worth a look.

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  44. MH17 footage I screen shot showed 'chaff' coming down. It was used to hide the small silver plane that villagers spoke of next to MH17. I also personally saw & screen shot the first Russian separatists to the site report they saw parachutists coming down. That is still on my FB. Joep Lange's personal assistant, a female Aussie - Noela - told me years later she felt he did not die on that plane. His HIV/AIDS research was the goal. TPTB behind the shooting down (bullets riddled the cockpit) mid air from the other plane, have profited very very handsomely from them taking over the HIV/AIDs anti virus medications still prolonging the lives of HIV sufferers. $billions & billions have been made. They were all the targets. NEVER put large groups of scientists on one plane. Same thing was done to MH370 a short while before. Same reason. The Freescale Chinese scientists. The events are linked and are a continuation by the same hand.

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